Re: [atlarge-discuss] Off to a bad start

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joanna and all stakeholders of interested parties,

  Again I must agree strongly with Joanna here.  Vittorio, you have
seemed more and more obtuse sense Bucharest.  Given your
comments there and just after, I am very confused which
side of the fence you are on.  In any event, perception is
90% of reality, so recently your banter has been less than
helpful to the members.  However I would not go as far
as to say, as Joanna did, that you are being obstructive.
But your getting very close to it...

Joanna Lane wrote:

> Vittorio wrote:
> [snip]
> > I have sent a first announcement of the elections to this list and to
> > the GA list on July 6 - [....]> It seems to me that deadlines have been
> published and stated quite
> > clearly. But I will now resend the charter in a separate message so
> > that nobody will miss it.
> >
>
> Sending a post to some 10% of the electorate subscribed to this list or the
> membership of a completely different organization (DNSO)does not satisfy the
> requirement that you inform the electorate that an election has commenced.
>
> EVERYBODY who signed up to the AtLarge.com website HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW this
> election has commenced, not just your cronies.
>
> I do not have time to argue endlessly with you. You are being obstructive.
>
> Regards,
> Joanna
>
> > http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0207/msg00055.html
> >
> > On July 8 I have also confirmed to you and to the list that everything
> > should proceed according to the charter that was attached to that
> > message:
> >
> > http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0207/msg00083.html
> >
> > And I know that there have been many discussion about some wording in
> > the charter... I can only say that if we want to meet very tight
> > deadlines we do not have so much time to spend on the charter; I am
> > sure that each of us would have suggestions or requests to amend some
> > parts of it, but we thought we should rather proceed and focus on
> > other issues, and this is why we basically took the last elections'
> > charter and changed only the necessary parts.
> >
> > However, the charter is not meant to limit the freedom of action of
> > the next panel.
> >
> > >Please provide a record of the Vote cast by each of the Interim Panel
> > >Members to approve your Charter together with a copy of the
> > Charter to this
> > >list.
> >
> > The copy is already there in the aforementioned message, and it has
> > been approved by the whole panel. Votes are recorded on the
> > atlarge-panel mailing list, which is publicly archived at
> > http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-panel/ . I hope that this is what you
> > wanted to get.
> >
> > >Also, who is setting up the Watchdogs mailing list and public
> > archive, you
> > >or Elisabeth?
> >
> > Come on, we are trying to set up an election in two weeks for an
> > informal group without any resources - do you really need a mailing
> > list for communication in a group of four persons which will last less
> > than one month? To make your messages public, it is enough if you copy
> > them to this list.
> > --
> > .oOo.oOo.oOo.oOo vb.
> > Vittorio Bertola     <vb@vitaminic.net>    Ph. +39 011 23381220
> > Vitaminic [The Music Evolution] - Vice President for Technology
> >
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