Re: [atlarge-discuss] Vittorio Bertola's candidation statement

[Izumi AIZU <izumi@anr.org>]

I agree with Hans and Erick.

I am bit concerned about the bit simplistic approach of Judith  Oppenheimer 's "
show me who can match" .

At this point very few from Asia is interested to run or participate this
election from Asia, which is not good at all and I feel me part of 
responsibility,
but honestly I think the pace and some of the atmosphere of the discussion here
are not that conducive for some of the people in Asia. Africans may feel similar,
I guess but I am not so sure.

It's a pity but a fact.

We need more "inclusive" approach such as shown by Hans and Erick, don't we?

best,

izumi from Asia



At 10:59 02/07/24 -0400, Hans Klein wrote:

>I think that geographic diversity is very important.
>
>The At Large exists in large part to give ICANN legitimacy (through 
>accountability, etc.)  Legitimacy is different than expertise.  So if 
>ICANNatlarge is nothing but experts from the US, it might be an effective 
>and efficient group, but its legitimacy would be compromised.
>
>If our panel elections result in a geographically unbalanced group, I 
>believe the panelists should reach out to people from other regions. 
>Legitimacy demands it.
>
>Hans
>
>
>
>At 02:14 PM 7/24/2002 +0000, j.oppenheimer@att.net wrote:
>>Vittorio, I don't want to be argumentative with you and
>>I recognize your sincerity and the time and effort
>>you've invested here, but it is misleading to say that
>>any measure of At Large has been retained by ICANN.
>>
>>At Large is a voting body with board seats.  Remove the
>>votes and board seats, and you remove At Large.  Which
>>is exactly what ICANN has done.
>>
>>As for geographic diversity, I'll take all the Jamie
>>Loves, Ted Byfields, Karl Auerbachs, Michael Froomkins
>>and Milt Muellers I can get, no matter their locations,
>>because they have the integrity, desire, **history and
>>expertise** to push ICANN (or whatever replaces it)
>>toward the goal of democratic geographic representation.
>>
>>The same cannot be said of well-meaning but
>>inexperienced persons merely because they come from
>>diverse areas of the world.
>>
>>Show me a European, Asian, African, South American, etc.
>>candidate who can match intent, integrity, wits and
>>expertise with the folks mentioned above and they've got
>>my vote.
>>
>>But anything less is counterproductive.
>>
>>J
>>
>>--
>>Judith Oppenheimer
>>http://JudithOppenheimer.com
>>http://ICBTollFreeNews.com
>>http://WhoSells800.com
>>212 684-7210, 1 800 The Expert
>> > MY CANDIDATION STATEMENT
>> >
>> > I am an Engineer, 27, and live in Turin, Italy; I am an active At
>> > Large member since 2000, and I am presently the Chairman of
>> > icannatlarge.com. I have been spending most of my time in the last
>> > months actively working for our organization and defending our cause
>> > in ICANN, submitting documents and proposals, and flying on my own
>> > money to Bucharest, to talk with Board members and save some space,
>> > even if tiny, for the At Large in ICANN - in which we succeeded.
>> >
>> > I believe that the Internet is a vital resource for the whole world;
>> > that its administration must be under the control of the global
>> > public; and that ICANN has been deliberately trying, in the last
>> > years, to put itself out of such control.
>> >
>> > This organization has to practically work to gain strength and
>> > credibility, so that its voice can get stronger and stronger. We have
>> > to get help and pressure on ICANN to defend the original plans for At
>> > Large elections of the Board. However, it is very likely that ICANN
>> > will survive and preserve its power. This is why we must keep a
>> > dialogue open with all ICANN participants and get support from them
>> > too.
>> >
>> > I am worried by the excessive stress that many candidates put on
>> > interactions with the US Government, and by the high number of
>> > candidates from the US. This organization needs members and leaders
>> > from all the world; it must defend the diversity and the independence
>> > of the Internet, not call for governmental involvement.
>> >
>> > There is still much to do, and we don't have many resources. We have
>> > to follow the thin line of practical compromises that stands between
>> > the sterile dream of ICANN's sudden death, and submission to ICANN's
>> > bad plans. It's the hardest way, but the only one that is guaranteed
>> > to produce results in the long term.
>> >
>> > So... I think that no one has spent more time and energy than me for
>> > this organization, and I really want to continue working and
>> > contributing my skills. This is why, I think, I deserve your vote
>> > again. Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> > MORE INFORMATION
>> >
>> > My statement for the first elections of icannatlarge.com (with more
>> > information on myself and my ideas)
>> > http://www.icannatlarge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=455#455
>> >
>> > My submissions to ICANN's Reform Committee:
>> > (1)
>> > http://forum.icann.org/reform-comments/general/pdf00011.pdf
>> > (2)
>> > http://forum.icann.org/reform-comments/structure/pdf00000.pdf
>> >
>> > My rough proposals for the ALAC
>> > http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0207/msg00408.html
>> >
>> > My Bylaws proposals for icannatlarge.com
>> > http://www.icannatlarge.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36
>> >
>> > The atlarge-panel list (to review my acts as current panel member)
>> > http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-panel/
>> >
>> > My proposal for At Large organization at Nov 2000 ICANN meeting
>> > http://www.icannmembers.org/Props/prop-7.html
>> >
>> > My candidation statement for year 2000 At Large elections
>> > http://icann.bertola.eu.org/
>> >
>> > You could also browse through my postings on the atlarge-discuss
>> > (http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/), DNSO GA
>> > (http://www.dnso.org/dnso/gaarchives.html) and icann-europe
>> > (http://www.fitug.de/icann-europe/) lists (unfortunately no per-author
>> > search is available).
>> > --
>> > vb.               [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a] bertola.eu.org]<------
>> > ----------------------> http://bertola.eu.org/ <--------------------------
>> >
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