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[atlarge-discuss] a French, International and US response to Judith' call



Dear Judith,
you wrote:

>Show me a European, Asian, African, South American, etc.
>candidate who can match intent, integrity, wits and
>expertise with the folks mentioned above and they've got
>my vote.

I will show you that you have folks a plenty if you just cast a glance at 
the real world. Sorry for looking a little chauvinistic about France, but I 
can decently only speak of what I know well. Others will tell you about 
their local Internet communities.


Expertise:
Louis Pouzin : French from Paris : created the zones, fathered the datagram 
1971, sponsored the ARPANET people at times of great financial duress at 
their beginings.
Zimmerman: part of the team, fathered most of the ISO Model
J-L Grangé : part of the team, cofathered IP
Robert Tréhin : French from Reunion : coined the word "root" in 1977, 
created the Intlnet
JFC Morfin : cobuilt the international namespace and codelegated the 
Internet namespace
SESA's team : codevelopped the X.25 and X.75
JF Abramatic : W3C and initial member of the ICANN Board
Olivier Iteanu: Chair of ISOC France and ISOC Europe, lawyer
Elisabeth Porteneuve: I think none here needs to know about her.
JY Babonneau: the creator of a State supported but very open model NIC 
(except for some registration requirements :-) with an very active 
international university for the ccTLDs
Sebastien Bachollet: member of the TLD TF, VP Cigref
etc..

BTW may I recall you about the Minitel (ask Judge Green) with 12 millions 
of stations.


Wits:
I suppose none of them has the necessary wits since he/she was not know to you.


Integrity:
none of them has been in jail so far. Two went to the BoD but left quickly 
in due time.


Intent.
Today the Eurolinc (equivalent to the Minc and Ainc for Europe) has Louis 
Pouzin and JFC Morfin among the founder and the French bootstrap is Chaired 
by J-L Grangé. A majority of the quoted people above are involved. The Club 
of Versailles as a think tank which hosted it and several other things with 
Sebastien Bachollet, JFC Morfin and a few others from the list. ISOC people 
just made a DN oriented meeting in Paris over these issues with people 
attending from all over Europe.

As far as ICANN @large are concerned, we
- had proportionally to the number of voter the largest number of 
candidates in 2000
- were the only ones to campaign together for he @large themselves
- were the only ones to campaign in cooperation with our NIC
- were the only ones to incorporate a support association
- had two candidates to the BoD seat of the DNSO, including the most 
endorsed one
- have members in the ICANN TF (@large and TLDs)
- are preparing two secondary/experimental root leading projects
- are offering nationwide access to the open roots
- have two candidates at the icannatlarge.com vote
- have the leading city by far at icann.meetup.com
- are proportionally the largest national community at the DNSO GA
- have still a semi-active and populated 2 years old ICANN oriented mailing 
list
- have never asked the other members to post in our language

and I probably forget and do not quote many things related to our position 
in the GAC (we are probably the only individuals whose inputs have been 
considered and quoted). May I remind you that in proportion France voted 
more in 2000 than the USA. That the first thing we did was to invite Andy 
to our NIC and to our Parliament? Not exactly what the US did with Karl?

I certainly accept that I am part of some of this. But this is only because 
I accepted to Chair france@large. It could have been Michel Baujard, it can 
be Marc Deriennic.


Judith, I apologize for being French and over French, here. But you 
challenged yourself: as a news person you should not only know about US 
people. I can not tell you with expertise about the other countries. But be 
sure that Sotiris for Canada, Joop for New Zealand, Vittorio for Italy, 
Thomas or Pascal for Germany, Joanna for UK, and so many others for India, 
Viet-Nam, China (45,7 millions of users), Japan, Senegal, South Africa, 
etc.. etc.. could tell you the same.

The only thing is to set-up our mind. Are we only interested in the 
"AmerICANN Joke" which purpose is to make believe the root is an US 
monopoly manipulated by a few large interest known as the "Yalta of the 
Internet" of the "stakeholders" and therefore to smoke screen/manipulate us 
in keeping the status quo. Or are we interested in the real International 
data network system (Intlnet) we created together for the last thirty 
years, and to represent and defend all our national communities rights.

We should never forget that the ".arpa" namespace was delegated to the 
Internet under the agreement of the International community of which the 
FCC was only a partner,  within the ITU/T frame, in agreement and under the 
jurisdiction of at least 50 States (monopolies) from the entire world 
including UK, France, Italy, Spain, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Portugal, 
Ireland, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Russia, Saudi, Tunisia, 
Egypt, Emirates, Greece, Israel, Japan, China (HK, main and Taiwan), 
Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, NZ, Australia, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, 
Canada, VI, etc. etc. and the USA (through the State Department and the 
FCC). We delegated them the right to connect "com" and "net", to connect 
the ccTLDs, to connect domestic users through the public nets under our FCC 
license. Never to rule the world. And the world never waited for them: the 
X121 international addressing scheme we jointly implemented is only the 
numeric names part of the International namespace that the DNS permits now 
to match (ENUM).

Once we collectively understand this, we understand our common national 
rights to continue the Intlnet, to develop our community TLDs as engraved 
in the stone by Jon Postel's RFC 920 in direct line with our agreements 
under our value added FCC license. We understand that *we are* the Intlnet 
and that our real move is to resume its joint control over the organization 
of our network together with the FCC, the ITU/T and the ICANN for the 
".arpa" TLDs and the relation with the ccTLDs.

What we are currently preparing by the way. Anyone interested please let me 
know.

Otherwise we will have soon as many national Internet as there are states. 
The Internet gouvernance cannot be an US dominance. Period. Either its a 
shared gouvernance, or it is a split one. We are the one to chose by the 
way we organize, disseminate our thinking and share into real projects.

EVERY one is welcome in International @large. Everyone (university, Telcos, 
lab, ccTLD) interested in sharing into an international experimental second 
generation root project (one connected Pentium and a DNS oriented 
interested team or pole of competence) with Gov/Telcos involvement/support, 
please let me also know. Real life is not only to vote by-laws, it is also 
to build and manage the system :-)

Everyone MUST be here. Otherwise it willnot work.
Just ask yourself what the ICANN wants from us? To keep it among yankees: 
not out fo nationalistic  interest, just to show they are right about the 
way the Staff and ALOC are populated :-)

This is "trap dance" all the way through!
jfc

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