Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: membership fees

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joop and all stakeholders or other interested parties,

Joop Teernstra wrote:

> At 01:33 a.m. 25/07/2002 -0400, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
>
> >Try not to duck the need to establish such fees (for one thing it will allow
> >you to be paid for your webmaster duties).  Every organization that intends
> >to succeed must raise revenues in some fashion.
>
> Completely agree. This is one of the reasons why I have always pleaded that
> the organization *employ* professional staff, just like ALOC is employing
> Denise.

  This is of course a very good idea.  However in order to viably accomplish
this the ICANNATLARGE.COM needs funding in order to pay such a
professional staff.  To my knowledge, ICANNATLARGE.COM does
not have such funding, has no place in which such funding could be
deposited safely and legitimately to date...

>
> Even though my work has been helped as a private person by members
> privately, I have made a beginning establishing a pattern of public
> accountability that I would like to see maintained  by a new webmaster in
> the future.
> Enough members have pledged willingness to support the self-organization
> financially. ($7480 worth of individual pledges by the latest count)
> This is the evidence of self-sustainability that we have.

  Where is the money?  Pledges are fine, cash is reality.  Hence a pledge
means very little unless it is actualized...  In addition $7480.00 even
in cash is a paltry sum for what you profess and many agree I am sure,
to pay a professional staff..

>
>
> >For all we know, this organization may one day wish to apply to become a
> >provisional constituency within a Supporting Organization -- that will
> >require real cash (probably around $16,000 per annum if there are at least
> >five such organizations within the SO since Secretariat and teleconference
> >charges will need to be supported).
>
> That should be feasible from  around 3000 members and up.

  I think you could do it with 1000 members.  But it would require
financial dedication from each and every member voluntarily to
be truly self sustaining...

>
>
> >Perhaps the candidates would like to comment on membership fees... how high
> >should they be?  Should they be scaled?  How much cash will the organization
> >require?  Should a budget committee be established?  Should a treasurer be
> >elected or appointed?  Should the organization be incorporated to facilitate
> >charitable donations?  Where should it be incorporated?  What will be the
> >real transaction cost of currency conversion?
>
> Good questions that I too would like to hear candidates' opinions on.
>
> But the "where to incorporate" could be such an endless, divisive and
> fruitless debate that I would almost rather prevent it by simply presenting
> the incorporation as an accomplished fact.

  Well in the current light this could be achieved by becoming an
legal association rather than incorporating.  Or a Trust Association.
Incorporation costs should be borne by the initial members
collectively.  This may mean steep membership dues initially
or garnering some specific large donations initially.  But to just
declare something that is not honest or a fact does the members
of ICANNATLARGE.COM a huge disservice..

>
>
> --joop
>
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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