Re: [atlarge-discuss] FW: [atlarge-panel] 006 Deciding Name - Resolution and Recommendationto Members

[eric@hi-tek.com]

On the name we must remain open to several that link or go direct and that we
remain easy to market.
If the name is a political rather than an Outreach/Marketing deal we are in
trouble from the start.

In general law a title is not part of the actual meaning of a written thing.
It is superfluous and only looked at when major confusion occurs.  We have no
confusion as to what we are doing so let us use titles to lure the poor
unsuspecting stakeholder into this quagmire of Internet politics. ;-]

Let us vote on six or so and link them or redirect them.  This is not rocket
scientry.  The more the better.
And then let others come up with better ones that shove more traffic our way.
duh.
e

Judith Oppenheimer wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joanna Lane [mailto:jo-uk@rcn.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:19 PM
> To: Michael Geist; atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-panel] 006 Deciding Name - Resolution and
> Recommendationto Members
>
> > From: Michael Geist [mailto:mgeist@netcom.ca]
> > I would prefer to deal with a name change when/if that comes to pass.
> > For now, ICANN = Internet governance and we need to play in the
> > sandbox.
>
> Michael,
> I don't think you're right on this one. We have members such as yourself
> and
> Hans who quite obviously believe the action should remain with ICANN.
> That's
> valid, but nevertheless, ought not to override the interests of others who
> feel differently. For a start, the majority of ICANN's GA voted for going
> over the top of ICANN's head and approaching the DoC directly to have the
> ICANN contracts rebid. Now, whether or not you agree with that, I would not
> be doing my job if I were to allow one side to rule this organization at
> the
> expense of the other.
>
> My mission is to try to hold this together and there is no way I can do
> that
> if you alienate half the membership by the choice of name. ICANN must go,
> but remains very much a part of the group in the WG-ICANN subset. Those who
> oppose having anything more to do with ICANN have already compromised in
> allowing the "AT Large" part of the name to go forward. If you and Hans
> will
> also compromise on the ICANN part, then I think we can make this work.
>
> We have two options on the table here - WorldAtLarge and InternetAtLarge. I
> agree that the mission should be focused on Internet Governance, so for me,
> WorldAtLarge is a little broad, and might invite the group to be distracted
> by people who would like to see us distracted.
>
> For me the "InternetAtLarge" is a excellent choice - and to counter Hans's
> point that it is too much of a change from what we have now, I disagree. In
> short form it's still IAL. The initial "I" takes the first Initial letter
> of
> ICANN and spells it out, so the only thing that it is being lost here is
> "Corporation of Assigned Names and Numbers". A change of the kind Hans is
> talking about would be say, Govern.net, which was also another suggestion
> on
> the table.
>
> Regards,
> Joanna
>
> >
> > >  > To explicitly operate outside ICANN, it is to be so far
> > >>  outside that process as to not matter at all.
> > >
> > >What then of CIRA and other non-icann-branded constituencies?
> > >
> >
> > CIRA and other cc's are not about ICANN nor does it seek a direct
> > voice on ICANN in the same way that at-large does.  While ICANN
> > issues are discussed by the board, it is hardly a key focus.
> >
> > MG
> > --
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> > Professor Michael A. Geist
> > University of Ottawa Law School, Common Law Section
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> > mgeist@uottawa.ca              http://www.lawbytes.ca
> >
> > BNA's Internet Law News - http://www.bna.com/ilaw
> > G & M Cyberlaw column - http://www.globetechnology.com
> > Internet Law Text - http://www.captus.com/Information/inetlaw-flyer.htm
> > Canadian Internet Law Resource Page (CILRP) at: http://www.cilrp.org/
> > ICANN UDRP Info at http://www.udrpinfo.com
> >
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