Re: [atlarge-discuss] Supporting Organization

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Richard and all stakeholders or other interested parties,

  Perhaps you are correct that CECUA posting to the reform
comments black hole ML is strategic stuff but the following isn't:
http://www.netspace.net.au/~cecua/discussPaper.htm.  And as you had
ask in and earlier post of this thread this also demonstrates what they
are doing with DNS as well...

Richard Henderson wrote:

> Yes I've read it.
>
> They are really postulating an "ideal" which is fair enough, but doesn't
> address the political realities as they are. They are talking in terms of
> reform of internet governance beyond ICANN, and while they rightly affirm
> the need for users to be at the heart, they offer no comments on the detail
> of what's going on in the context of the Blueprint. It's good-hearted stuff,
> pointing in positive directions, but lacking hooks on what's actually
> happening at ICANN, or making any clear demands or positions in relation to
> the Reform proposals.
>
> Their views appear non-specific and long-term. That does not invalidate
> them - they could be useful allies - but they do not address in any reality
> the DoC/ICANN axis which is determining the outcome of the Reform "coup". A
> sample of their submission to the reform process perhaps illustrates their
> long-term rather non-engaged views:
>
> "CECUA believes that the question is no longer one of re-defining the
> missions of ICANN but one of redefining the scope of the Internet governance
> functions themselves. In the long term, ICANN's survival is not a real
> issue. The real issue is to define the appropriate structures capable of
> managing the vital and common functions of the Internet. Some of them may be
> managed in a similar way as present within a common structure. Others will
> have to be managed separately because they pose totally different problems
> and face different issues. There may be a role for ICANN in this emerging
> model. But, on the other hand it may not have a role."
>
> There are some good points here, but this is strategic stuff, a long way
> from the battlefield.
>
> Richard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> To: <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>; <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Supporting Organization
>
> Richard writes:  << If CECUA is indeed as far-reaching as they claim, where
> are they in the struggle for integrity in the administration of the DNS? >>
>
> The Secretary General of this Organization posted a paper to the ERC list
> http://forum.icann.org/reform-comments/general/msg00056.html
> entitled, "Governance of the Internet: what is ICANN’s legitimacy?"
>
> The paper itself (in French) is posted at
> http://www.iris.sgdg.org/les-iris/lbi/lbi-110402.html
>
> Clearly, they have an active interest.
>
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