Re: [atlarge-discuss] icannatlarge.com

[eric@hi-tek.com]

you rock on Joanna,

Joanna let me speak for the feeling of many of us;

We may disagree with your decisions at this juncture.  OK
But we support you as our chair.
It is very hard to foresee the future, I am paid very little to do it on a
daily, yearly and decade basis.
Lawyers do not make the call they protect the plate. Preachers do not run our
lives they only offer opinions.
We did not hire a lawyer to be our panel we elected a group that is eclectic and
representative.
I for one love you all as a group.  You remind me of my ten full dinner table
growing up.
There are two truths of opinions. Just like an a..ho.. everyone has one, and
just like a person everyone should be honored and respected.  Tough Job (or is
that Jobe).
Remember, as I should of today before almost ripping a mans' head off, take your
time and plot your course.  Reaction is distraction.
Do well my friend,
e

Joanna Lane wrote:

> Hello Michael,
> <Although I do
> > believe in someone having to assume responsibility and authority
> > for the day to day operations of a group I think that your
> > decision to drop the name icannatlarge from the ballot is not
> > within the scope of your jurisdiction.
>
> It is not my decision, it is not even the Watchdogs decision unless the
> Panel vest that authority in them, which I don't believe they have as yet.
> If you fear for yourself
> > and your family by all means resign.
>
> That is the easy option, but if possible, I would like to continue acting in
> the best interests of the membership as a whole, not just my personal
> interests.
>
>   I do not think we will
> > remonstrate you for that move.  But, we initiated some choices
> > and now we want to vote.  If it proves to be a legally
> > inappropriate move then we will deal with the situation as it
> > develops.  Who knows, we might be able to get a lot of air time.
> > David versus Goliath.
>
> I don't know about you, but I am not a lawyer and when I come across a legal
> issue, as I do frequently, then I put aside personal feelings, moral and
> political arguments and I go to the best source I can find for legal advice.
> Invariably they are right, so I have learnt to listen and act upon their
> advice, whether I like it or not, which often I do not, and this is no
> exception.
>
> You have said "If it proves to be a legally inappropriate move then we will
> deal with the situation as it develops". Does that include paying the
> personal legal defense expenses of any member who is sued? I thought not.
>
> Believe me, this is giving me no pleasure.
>
> Regards,
> Joanna
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Micheal Sherrill
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> > Date:  Sat, 21 Sep 2002 14:38:40 +1200
> >
> > At 03:25 a.m. 21/09/2002 +0200, Norbert Klein wrote:
> > > > Unless there is a panel majority vote, the ballot must continue
> > > > unhampered.
> > > >
> > > > Please note that the only people with the authority to send out this
> > > > draft,
> > > > or to extend the ballot, or to remove icannatlarge from the
> > ballot are the
> > > > elected panel by majority vote - otherwise the ballot continues
> > > > unhampered.
> > > >
> > > > I am happy to proceed if only ONE watchdog is prepared to
> > continue with
> > > > the
> > > > ballot - let the others resign. Let all of them resign.
> > > >
> > > > The vote is the will of the membership.
> > > >
> > > > First see what the membership wants... THEN review the legal position.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I do not see the legal problem at all. Yes, there was a private opinion
> > >expressed that ICANNatlarge may be using the ICANN element illegally.
> > >
> > >Please see what is on http://www.at-large.org/
> >
> > Quite so. We are still there as icannatlarge.com
> > BTW, isn't Kent Crispin webmaster and host of that website? By
> > changing or
> > not changing the link and name , that webmaster has the power to select
> > which worldwide organization Denise's ALOC will "recognize".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >ICANNatlarge is the only "worldwide" organization recognized in
> > the present
> > >ICANN process. My fear is quite on the opposite end: if the
> > membership should
> > >vote to change the ICANNatlarge name to something else, we lose
> > the position
> > >which we until now rightly (and recognized by ICANN) have, as one of the
> > >self-organized bodies to which ICANN has to listen (even if the
> > board does not
> > >agree with our voice).
> > >
> > >Norbert
> >
> > I share Norbert's concern.
> > I already felt uncomfortable that the members had their choices
> > made *for*
> > them when  the Panel eliminated icannatlarge.com from the choice.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --Joop
> >
> >
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