Re: [atlarge-discuss] Products for Shanghai

["NameCritic" <chris1@telnor.net>]

I'm hearing that there are objections to Danny speaking for this group and
now you propose that INEGroup members do so? I don't remember any resolution
authorizing anyone from that group to speak for us. Please tell us their
names so we can consider it Jeff.

And if you say you were not talking about them speaking for this group, why
are you using this list to discuss the matter?

Personally I wish Danny would just sign up as a member. I would have no
problem having him speak for us at that conference or anywhere else in that
case.

Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>; <hans.klein@pubpolicy.gatech.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Products for Shanghai


> Danny, Hans and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
>
>   This is a pretty good brief Danny.  It could be used to aid in
> proposing a resolution for Shanghai but this organization.  However
> time is very short to do so...
>
>   Will you be attending in Shanghai Danny?  How about you Hans?
> If not, two or our [INEGroup] members will be as I understand it.
> So our [INEGRoup] members could present such a resolution
> via proxy if acceptable I believe.  I will see whom it is that
> will be attending in Shanghai from our [INEGRoup] members
> and make them aware as well as ask them to consider it...
>
> DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
>
> > Hans,
> >
> > Re:  http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-panel/0210/msg00170.html
> > In response to your request for a 1-page analysis of a relevant issue, I
have
> > taken the liberty of preparing a preliminary issue brief for
consideration:
> >
> > Resellers as a Source of Registrant Confusion
> >
> > At the November 2001 Marina del Rey Names Council session a
representative of
> > the Business Constituency remarked that fully 70% of all domain name
> > registrants may be unaware of who their registrars are (owing in great
> > measure to the rapid proliferation of ISPs and other resellers that
provide
> > registration services), and it may now be noted that the consequences of
this
> > consumer confusion have already begun to deleteriously affect the
entirety of
> > the domain name industry -- as such, this is a matter which should be of
> > concern to the ICANN Board.
> >
> > At issue is the rampant confusion ultimately made visibly manifest
through
> > the transfer of sponsorship process.  When a registrant decides to take
> > advantage of lower domain name pricing made possible via ICANN's efforts
to
> > enhance competition at the registrar level, such a registrant will
> > predictably attempt to transfer his existing registration to another
sponsor
> > at the conclusion of the registration period.  Invariably, these
registrants
> > will then receive correspondence from an entity with whom they have had
no
> > other prior contact (their own losing registrar) and either don't know
how to
> > respond to the letter, or will ignore the letter as another piece of
daily
> > junk mail.  Often this confusion then results in the subsequent denial
of the
> > transfer request by those registrars that adhere to a NACK policy, and
this
> > in turn serves to make a bad situation even worse by facilitating the
> > development of an unnecessary acrimony between these registrants and the
> > respective registrars.  Those registrants held hostage by this process
> > accordingly begin to reevaluate the desirability of maintaining domain
names,
> > and the regular and steady shrinkage in the CNO bears testimony to the
> > private response of the registrant community to this ongoing abusive
> > situation.
> >
> > Sixteen months ago, a representative of the Enom registrar made the
following
> > comment:  "I believe that in this extremely competitive situation we
find
> > ourselves in, some of us are trying to protect our market shares by
"making
> > sure" the registrant really wishes to leave, and inadvertently, by
making it
> > more difficult for the registrants to switch, these registrars may be
> > reinforcing the willingness of the registrants to switch. A terrible
spiral
> > consisting of an increasing desire to switch and an increasing
difficulty to
> > switch increasingly exasperates and frustrates all of our customers."
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg00653.html
> >
> > To end this vicious cycle which has become only worse over the course of
> > time, direct action by the ICANN Board is required.  In addition to
> > considering the recommendations soon to be offered by the Names Council
> > Transfers Task Force, it would be prudent for the Board to consider
measures
> > that would enable registrants to readily know who their
registrar-of-record
> > actually is -- such measures would go a long way toward reducing
potential
> > registrant confusion.  There are at present domain name resellers that
don't
> > even cite the name of the ICANN accredited registrar in their Terms of
> > Service contract, but this situation is a matter that can be readily
> > rectified by Board action.  Just as registrars are bound by contract to
> > ICANN, so too can resellers be bound to contractual requirements which
would
> > force them, at the very least, to clearly identify to the registrant the
> > ICANN accredited registrar responsible for their domain name
sponsorship.
> >
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> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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