Re: [atlarge-discuss] Jamie's motion: what will it be, "control" or rule of law

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joop and all stakeholders, panel members, or other interested parties and
members,

Joop Teernstra wrote:

> From: Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> To: atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de
> Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:46:14 +1300
> Subject: choose between "control" and "rule of Law"
>
> At 03:30 p.m. 16/10/2002 -0400, James Love wrote:
>
> >    Our first job is to replace Joop with some live human being that we
> > trust with the control over the site.
> >
> >    Vote against the motion if you like.   THis has been an outstanding
> > issue for several months.
>
> Jamie,
>
> I'll close my eyes to the implied compliment.
>
> Assuming that we = you and Hans, your motion is moot.
> Bret Fausett is already in control and has been so for months. He can
> modify or even shut down the site as he pleases.  The website is with a
> commercial hosting provider that he controls.

  Which Web site Joop, ICANNATLARGE.COM or ICANNATLARGE.ORG?

>
>
> What you (the Panel, the members) now need is somebody who is willing to
> take over  the actual work, professionally and without political bias.

  Agreed.

>
>
> In order to achieve that you (the Panel) have to promulgate the Rules under
> which your webmaster is to operate.

  This is a good very general idea.

>
>
> *That* is your first job.

  I disagree here.  The first Job should be to get the bylaws, charter,
articles of incorporation and the Mission statement completed
in draft form, than ratified by the members.

>
>
> For substantive contributions/drafts, see the Forum (under "Charter" and
> under "Calling for a volunteer webmaster")
> or let the Bylaws committee come up with some editorial rules.

  The Bylaws should never contain any language regarding how the
Web site is to be managed only that a Web site for this organization
exists, what that primary Web site is, and what is is used for.

>
>
> Hasty motions for appointments *without* webmaster Rules in the bylaws,
> based on some subjective "trust", reek of coup attempts.

  Again such "Rules" for Web site management should NOT be in the Bylaws.
Those rules should be in a separate document/contract and in contract
form.

>
>
> In that case it is better to follow Jefsey's and Chris'  precept and "let a
> dozen websites bloom".
>
> Frustrate the 1000 waiting members long enough and that's what you will
> have on your hands anyway.
>
> (Please do not censor this, Thomas.
> This is intended for the Panel)

CENSORSHIP IN ANY OF IT'S FORMS IS WRONG!

>
>
> --Joop Teernstra LL.M.--
>    initial webmaster
> www.icannatlarge.org
> Sign up and spread the word.
>
> ******It  *was* censored and then with a  editorial forwarded  to the alsg
> list that Thomas also controls--there is no public record that the Panel
> members are on that list (or that Michael Geist is on this  list, for that
> matter)*****
> I post it here again for the record.
>
> --Joop
>
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