Re: [atlarge-discuss] Jamie's motion: what will it be, "control" or rule of law

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jamie and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  You right on the mark here Jamie!  Pardon the pun also!  >;)

  Indeed already the Web site management is well down the road of
paralyzing this organization.

James Love wrote:

> Joop, for some people, the web page is a hugely interesting and intrigue
> filled enterprise, with an infinite nuimber of possible ways to do things,
> sieze control of an organization, turn the Internt communit upside down,
> etc.  For some others, including me, it is a fairly small detail in a larger
> effort, where we don't want to get bogged down forever.  I'm sure there are
> lots of other ways of looking at this too.  I am amazed at how inept our
> group is at doing simple things, or turning simple things into big headaches
> or paralizing debates.  If this is the best we can do, it isn't going to be
> that impressive for governments deciding how to respond to ICANN reform
> efforts.  That's my two cents.
>
> Jamie
>
> Joop Teernstra wrote:
> >
> > From: Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> > To: atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de
> > Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 12:46:14 +1300
> > Subject: choose between "control" and "rule of Law"
> >
> > At 03:30 p.m. 16/10/2002 -0400, James Love wrote:
> >
> >>    Our first job is to replace Joop with some live human being that we
> >> trust with the control over the site.
> >>
> >>    Vote against the motion if you like.   THis has been an outstanding
> >> issue for several months.
> >
> >
> > Jamie,
> >
> > I'll close my eyes to the implied compliment.
> >
> > Assuming that we = you and Hans, your motion is moot.
> > Bret Fausett is already in control and has been so for months. He can
> > modify or even shut down the site as he pleases.  The website is with a
> > commercial hosting provider that he controls.
> >
> > What you (the Panel, the members) now need is somebody who is willing to
> > take over  the actual work, professionally and without political bias.
> >
> > In order to achieve that you (the Panel) have to promulgate the Rules
> > under which your webmaster is to operate.
> >
> > *That* is your first job.
> >
> > For substantive contributions/drafts, see the Forum (under "Charter" and
> > under "Calling for a volunteer webmaster")
> > or let the Bylaws committee come up with some editorial rules.
> >
> > Hasty motions for appointments *without* webmaster Rules in the bylaws,
> > based on some subjective "trust", reek of coup attempts.
> >
> > In that case it is better to follow Jefsey's and Chris'  precept and
> > "let a dozen websites bloom".
> >
> > Frustrate the 1000 waiting members long enough and that's what you will
> > have on your hands anyway.
> >
> > (Please do not censor this, Thomas.
> > This is intended for the Panel)
> >
> > --Joop Teernstra LL.M.--
> >   initial webmaster
> > www.icannatlarge.org
> > Sign up and spread the word.
> >
> > ******It  *was* censored and then with a  editorial forwarded  to the
> > alsg list that Thomas also controls--there is no public record that the
> > Panel members are on that list (or that Michael Geist is on this  list,
> > for that matter)*****
> > I post it here again for the record.
> >
> > --Joop
> >
> >
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