Re[2]: [atlarge-discuss] Internet Registry of Canada Charged

["W. E. (Ted) Murray" <Fred@knowcon.ca>]

Wednesday, October 30, 2002, 8:08:41 PM, you wrote:

JW> Danny and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

JW>   From this it seems that all is not well in Canada, much to Judyth's
JW> and Ted's chagrin I am sure...  It seems that our friends to the north,
JW> good friends that they surely are, also have their Internet policy
JW> and practice problems as well...  Such is life...

Jeff:  Do your homework before you "spew".  Danny has pointed out a
"scam" situation not unlike many others which have been noted on this
list earlier.  If one was to take the time to research properly you
would note that the Internet Registry of Canada is not a CIRA
sanctioned registrar. This fact is something which, especially with
the guise in which their solicitations were presented, was lost on the
unsuspecting individuals targeted.  The truth is, the system here "is"
working and those who would abuse it are being identified and pursued.

I believe, with some editorial licence, what Danny was trying to
convey is the fact that this sort of situation continues and will
continue until we establish an effective governance model for the net.
Moreover what is needed is an educational/informational process
whereby netcitizens can easily determine fact from fiction when
confusing and/or misleading items appear in their inbox.  This is
precisely the space where our "floundering" atlarge effort needs to
establish a presence and can truly serve the global Internet
community.

Jeff, think before you "spew".  I thought I conveyed that to you
during your late night "courtesy" phone call ....  Do not bother
repeating it please.

JW>   Now Ted, weren't you offering to do some hosting and DNS
JW> work for our organization?
JW> See: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg01019.html

And furthermore Jeff, please get your facts right.  I believe you
are referring to an exchange between Tim and Jefsey here.  I have
nothing to do with the post you allude to.

JW>   Oh and Ted, again BTW you also misquoted me again here
JW> in this reference archived post.
JW> Your quote was "I have been looking at it and the problem is that some
JW> of the name-services.com Nameservers are down
JW> (specifically NS1 and NS5).  Jeff Williams mentioned
JW> that the IP addresses are wrong in the Whois, but that
JW> won't necessarily cause a problem so long as the
JW> Nameservers are correct."

JW> All 5 DNS servers are misconfigured, not just the examples
JW> I provided. Did you happen to do a reverse lookup on all of them?
JW> Seems not...

JW>   Did you happen to do a DIG on any of them Ted?

JW> DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:

>> Ottawa, October 28, 2002 - The Competition Bureau announced today that
>> charges were laid in Toronto against the Internet Registry of Canada and its
>> principals under the Competition Act's misleading representations and
>> deceptive telemarketing provisions.
>>
>> The Competition Bureau alleges that the Internet Registry of Canada, which
>> offered an Internet domain name registration service, marketed its services
>> by sending mail solicitations that appeared to be invoices sent on behalf of
>> the Government of Canada or an officially sanctioned agency registering
>> domain names in Canada, to individuals and organisations whose domain names
>> were about to expire. The mailings allegedly gave the impression that domain
>> name holders were existing customers of, and had to re-register their domain
>> names with, the Internet Registry of Canada which was not true.
>>
>> Charged along with the company were James Tetaka and Daniel Klemann. Mr.
>> Tetaka was recently charged with respect to another matter,
>> Yellowbusiness.ca., which was also charged under the Competition Act with
>> respect to allegedly deceptive mail solicitations.
>>
>> "These charges reflect the Bureau's ongoing efforts to ensure that Canadian
>> consumers are protected from deceptive marketing practices," said Raymond
>> Pierce, Deputy Commissioner, Fair Business Practices Branch. "We will
>> continue to thoroughly investigate such cases, particularly where the
>> individuals responsible move from one deceptive practice to another."
>>
>> Consumers who suspect they have been the victim of deceptive marketing
>> practices or who want information on the application of the Competition Act
>> should contact the Bureau's Information Centre at 1-800-348-5358, or visit
>> our Web site at www.cb-bc.gc.ca.
>>
>> The Competition Bureau is an independent law enforcement agency which ensures
>> that all Canadians enjoy the benefits of a competitive economy. It oversees
>> the application of the Competition Act, the Consumer Packaging and Labelling
>> Act, the Textile Labelling Act and the Precious Metals Marking Act.
>> http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/SSG/ct02442e.html
>>
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W. E. (Ted) Murray  -  KnowCon Inc.  (Knowledge Consultants)
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