Re: [atlarge-discuss] IPv[X] and their implications - Our Issue

["J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>]

Interesting point of view about IPvSex.

Could you help us in explaining how it technically works? Just rought 
general lines. Still use TCP/IP?
What you say makes some sense to me based upon my old Extended Network 
Systems Model, so I am not teasing you: I think this is rought good 
brainware specs. But Jim Flemming will probably ask you a few questions?
jfc


At 05:31 11/11/02, Jkhan wrote:

> I'd like to express in a layman's perspective, the 'Technologically 
> Engineered' segregating differences between IPv6 and IPv[X]* (*be that 
> IPv4, etc... ) and the implications of Icann's 
> authorization/adaptation/implementation of IPv6.
>
> The advent of IPv6 brings with it a number of social-economic 
> implications. These social-economic factors which Icann has either missed 
> or deliberately ignored, in the course of their in-house R&D (research & 
> development) efforts or thirst for derivative profits from the 
> Multinational Corporations. These are our ISSUES of contention, which need 
> attention.
>
> First, please accept may layman's example of the today's Internet Protocol 
> and IPv6.
>
> The Internet Today:
> Take for instance a Ping-Pong Ball, this is a smooth spherical surface 
> that allows the air to pass evenly around it, as the air inside the sphere 
> is ambient and non-pressurized. The Internet today allows you to surf 
> along the surface of the sphere seamlessly without dropping into a hole, 
> and apart from an occasional 'gate' (Firewall & Security) , it is 
> Transparent in the sense that you are free to explore its surface space.
>
> IPv6:
> Take for instance a Wiffle-Ball, this is a spherical surface with holes 
> punctured across its surface. The idea being when a Wiffle-Ball is struck 
> with a golfing club the Ball takes flight but is severely retarded by the 
> drag of air caused by the un-even perforated surface. Picture this sphere, 
> where the holes are connected, thru the ball to another hole by a tunnel 
> (tubes if you need). Great right! You can surf along the surface of the 
> sphere and drop into a hole and pop out on the other side.
>
> The implication of this:
>
> The Internet Today:
> Most of us hop on-line and surf around, visit various places and gather 
> information, without much notice of cost, other than our monthly service 
> bill (connection fee, etc...) We surf on a Web transparently seamless, in 
> a visible (Identified/Your identity) manner. We manage to get along to 
> places that our choice of search engines and search strings lead us. 
> Strung together like the surface of a ball of yarn, One long search strand 
> of humanity, searching across the surface of this globe for information. 
> It works fine except that we have become crowded and there is a need to 
> expand the globe so more surface area is available to accommodate more 
> people in search of humanities knowledge. So to expand the surface area, 
> you technologically expand the sphere with IPv[X] (IPv4+)
>
>
> IPv6:
> With IPv6 hopping on-line will be the same, getting around will change 
> slightly, more conveniently to some maybe less to others, on the surface 
> nothing much will have changed. The speed may suffer for a bit of time, 
> but Technology (Mohr's Law) will improve it. We can surf along searching 
> for information or just window-shopping for our enjoyment and an 
> occasional surprise. Much as we use the internet today.
>
> The  change comes when you Search for information and the availability of 
> information is available through/within a specific 'Tunnel', you use the 
> tunnel and arrive at/within the place you can gain access to information. 
> Its quite convenient to use these tunnels, as they reduce you transit time 
> and their limited access allows for less cross traffic. To get there you 
> must pay a toll. This may seen quite reasonable, with the exception of the 
> instance that; where you arrived may not have the information you were 
> searching for, in which, you did not get what you paid for. So to 
> technologically connect within the sphere you inter-modalize with IPv6.
>
> In summary the technological mechanics are very similar to the Postal 
> System and FedEX delivery systems. Where the Internet today is addressed 
> much like the Postal system and where IPv6 is the FedEX of the Internet.
>
> Data Packets are very much like letters with a To and From address. The 
> postal system is a nameless/faceless collection of people that move 
> letters from one
> side of the network to the other without ever changing the addresses or 
> opening them. IPv4 is like a standard letter envelope system, it is simple 
> and easy to use.
> Except, the People assume that their zip-code comes from the government 
> and they could not imagine paying for each one, each year, or each month.
>
> Comparing IPv6 to FedEx is an interesting exercise, especially when you 
> consider, How to make it work. Imagine FedEx without all of the special 
> boxes, planes
> and the central service center, instead, imagine running FedEx by taking a 
> FedEx letter and stuffing it into a standard Express Mail envelope, 
> sending it via the U.S. postal system addressed to FedEx at the other end, 
> and then having it opened to discover the FedEx envelope inside which is 
> then delivered without the customer knowing how it made it there. Why 
> would anyone need that service?, when it is basically the same as Express 
> Mail. Why does anyone need IPv6 ? ( why would we need this exclusivity)
>
> I hope you are still with me at this point, as with this understanding. I 
> am going to bring the aspects of Technocracy vs. Democracy into light.
>
> With the Internet today, we have the opportunity to implement a platform 
> for the evolution and expansion (to some regions) of Democracy where once 
> it did not exist, [including the jurisdiction of the cyberscape].
>
> With IPv6, we have the opportunity to create our own VPN, your own 
> Monarchy  [My own Virtual Private Idaho] a Technocracy where once it did 
> not exist, [including the jurisdiction of the cyberscape].
>
> The danger with IPv6 is that it creates barriers to entry. The cost are 
> now being distributed and being paid in the end by the all consumers,  and 
> for those whom if they can afford to pay the 'Toll' are allowed the 
> privileged access to knowledge, thus becoming selective and segregating to 
> the whole (exclusive), not just private and public interest.
>
> Lets take the Lexus Legal Information System for example. Here is a 
> collection of Public documents (Court Decisions) that has been Data Based 
> by Lexus, the indexing system is such that Anyone with the knowledge of 
> the Case Style filing system would know how to chase down a string of 
> legal reasoning. [ If you can read the Title/'Style' of the case and read 
> the spine of the book, you can find the case annotated within]. Of course 
> today We/Lexus have search engines that can find matches based on case 
> 'precedence'. And that's all great, Except here the information retrieval 
> has been made proprietary and thus there is a Cost in terms of money or 
> even educational achievements, that is required to gain access. This is 
> what separates a 'Layman' from a 'Professional'  and bound to the 
> professional. The limiting of access to the knowledge is not accidental. 
> It holds the 'Professional' in a higher position to the Layman though 
> which their economic advantage is achieved. An 'exclusive' tunnel for the 
> Legal and other professions are now being implemented. On your behalf and 
> at your expense, according to Icann.
>
> IPv6 is the Technological adaptation of this principle. By limiting access 
> to these "Tunnels" by means of cost, expertise, discrimination and 
> exclusive access, the segregation and the 'Construction' of 
> 'Differences'  to which opinion is attached and preserved. Perpetuates the 
> exploitation of the differences which are used to subordinate, creating a 
> hierarchy though which economic advantage is achieved, and making the 
> cycle of servitude complete.  The proliferation of the 'Have and 
> Have-Not'. Thus becoming the anti-thesis of Democracy.
>
> Democracy has no Borders, except those that we construct, or allow to be 
> constructed. The internet let the Genie (Knowledge) out of the Bottle, 
> Icann wants to put it back in. The days of the Clergy, Coati, and Shah Men 
> have now passed, the Vail, Kabala, Kabash is now revealed. The King has no 
> clothes.
> Icann has released the Enemy of the Democratic State into the Cyber 
> future. Their will no longer be transparency, we will no longer know what 
> goes on behind closed door, or within the Tunnel of the enemy.
>
> The difference between the two relates to what the mission in your life is.
> The mission of the IcannatLarge for the Public Interest is to foster 
> knowledge about law and the administration of justice in and of the 
> Internet in a society committed to:
>     a.. the rights of individuals
>     b.. free enterprise
>     c.. private ownership of property (Domains)
>     d.. balanced use of private and public resources
>     e.. limited government, and
>     f.. a fair and efficient judiciary
> This is the ISSUE.
> We can no longer allow the practice of segregation and colonialism to 
> continue, at the cost of lives and loss of a diversity of knowledge, death 
> of beautiful minds.
> We can not allow the continuing exploitation of mankind by one/fifth the 
> worlds population at the cost of the remaining mankind,  and sustain our 
> existence.
>
> "We can bring good things to life"
>
> James Khan
>
>
> P.S.:
> http://www.un.org/Pubs/chronicle/2002/issue3/0302p4_from_sg.html
>
>
>
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