Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [wg-web] RE: [atlarge-discuss] RE: [atlarge-panel] Web Site Updates?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Bruce and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

Bruce Young wrote:

> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> | With all due respect, the current Webmaster
> | was not one that was determined by the members.
>
> No, he was appointed by vote of the panel.  Until we have bylaws that more
> succintly define who appoints the Webmaster, that is as legal as things get
> for now.

  No, we had an ongoing election from within the WG-WEB underway
and later Jefsey could not seem to get the candidates properly listed.
So no appointment by the panel can possibly be considered legitimate
as the Panels mandate does not include appointing anyone to any
Working Group.

>
>
> | As we have seen in past experiences with ICANN's DNSO web site as well
> | as the IDNO's website allowing the webmaster to do whatever they wish
> | without some guidelines and oversight is a huge mistake as information
> | provided on the Website may not reflect the positions of the members of
> | ICANNATLARGE.ORG.
>
> The Webmaster is subject to Panel oversight.  Do you really think this
> contentious bunch isn't going to scream if Brett goes rogue on us? :)

  He already has gone rogue to a small degree.  And it has been pointed
out that he has.  Hence, either you have not been paying close attention,
Bruce, which frankly somewhat surprises me, or some other problem yet to
be defined or known exists in this particular regard.  And NO, the Web
Master is accountable to the WG-WEG ONLY, as the Panel has
no authority to oversee web master functions as that is not in the Mandate
or the Panel via the election of the panel by the members.  So if you contend
otherwise Bruce, as it seems you are here, than unfortunately you are
acting in a near rogue manner as a panel member.  Please discontinue
such ASAP.  >;)

>
>
> | Hence we need the WG-Web to devise a set of guidelines and procedures
> | by which some updates and especially additions to the Website
> | are done.
>
> Yes.  And those need to be rolled into the bylaws.

 No they don't need to be rolled into the bylaws at this juncture.  If you
contend so, please state clearly, concisely and directly as to why at this
particular juncture they need to be?

>  Meanwhile, we need to
> keep the Web site updated.  And it is appropriate that thw Webmaster have
> some control over decisions made about the Web site, since he is the one
> that will have to implement them.

  No, he should have some control as to when he can make the updates,
NOT what should be updated or added as the Web site reflects on the
organization as a whole and speaks to a great degree for the members.
Hence the proper need for the WG-WEB.  All  Web site additions,
deletions, and some updates, must be approved first by the WG-WEB
for now, and than by the members as to updates and deletes.  Fixing
non-working but previously working existing or previously existing
things on the Web site, also should pass muster of the WG-WEB
and the members if and when requested by any member or members.
Anything else is a prelude to capture and discredits this organization
and all it's members accordingly.

>
>
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon
> bruce@barelyadequate.info
> http://www.barelyadequate.info
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Regards,

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