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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] Future

----- Original Message -----
From: Vittorio Bertola <vb@bertola.eu.org>
To: Vivek Durai <vivek@vivekdurai.com>
Cc: <atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>; <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 1:50 PM
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] Future

On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 19:06:29 +051800, you wrote:

>>However, if you want this organisation to source its legitmacy to ALAC, I
>>strongly oppose the same. That is a shortcut to destroying all these
months of

Vittorio replied:

>No, absolutely. At most, we can decide to *take part* in ALAC, or even
>to work actively for the implementation of the ALAC/RALO mechanism,
>but we are to stay independent until we exist.

Why do we want the implementation of the RALOs inside Icann? Why do we want
an ALAC which adds legitimacy to Denise's "fake" At Large. They just want
these processes to legitimise their destruction of At Large influence. They
want to create a containable At Large ghetto somewhere in the side-corridors
of Icann. That way they can say to the critics of DoC and Icann, look! we
are involving ordinary users!

By all means send observers, to comment and criticise and condemn along the
policy lines and standpoint of the independent At Large, but whatever you
do, build the REAL At Large outside Icann, as a coalition and as an

You can't win, inside ICANN. They can only eat you up.

Outside ICANN, you can create a voice which may one day be heard, because it
offers democracy and a future.

Please please stop thinking that the "Icann At Large" is the credible voice
of Internet Users of the world. It exists to protect the status quo.

It is a confidence trick.

Richard H

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