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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Recordings of Amsterdam Meetings and PROPOSAL
At 09:31 p.m. 20/12/2002, Richard Henderson wrote:
Thanks for this effort Bret.
The trouble is that engagement in the ICANN project is muddying the waters
and endangering the development of an *independent* At Large movement.
As long as any Domain Name Owners' or Users' organization is led by
*independents* this ICANN will never want to have any truck with them.
Conversely: rejection by ICANN is the best proof of independence from it.
This development of the At Large under Denise Michel is in the hands of
ICANN, under the authority of the Board. This voice is therefore compromised
and *cannot* be the main, independent or in any way credible voice of the At
Large.
The idea that the At Large should be structured, promoted, and developed
WITHIN Icann is a disastrous wrong turning, as the whole issue has been
about ICANN's desire to stifle, control or eject critical voices from its
organisation.
I have a lot of sympathy for this point of view.
Since this is the battlefront which must be fought - the need and right of
ordinary people to criticise the Board and challenge its undemocratic
authority - it is wholly unacceptable to allow ICANN to draw the mechanism
for challenging it, into a structure that ICANN determines, ICANN directs,
and ICANN develops.
Agree.
It is absolutely plain that ICANN is trying to create a 'tame' controllable
alternative to the REAL At Large, a kind of 'controlled' pretence of
user-involvement, whereas the real independent views of ordinary users are
far more threatening to their powerbase and need to challenge the idea that
Internet Users should somehow be orchestrated and manipulated 'inside' ICANN
structures developed by ICANN.
Even outside ICANN we are not safe from orchestration or manipulation. And
there is the constant uncertainty about how independent people really are
or if they can remain independent.
I also broadly agree with the logic behind your strategy, and the need for
the membership to speak out on the strategy it wishes to follow, but the
ballot questions need perhaps some friendly amending.
I PROPOSE a ballot of the membership of IcannatLarge.org on the following
two questions:
Do you want IcannatLarge.org to help create RALO's inside ICANN's
structures?
I propose :
A. Do you see Regional At Large Organizations as (tick choice, more than
one is possible)
1. a necessity for At Large organizing
2. unnecessarily divisive
3. helpful but not essential
4. a distraction from worldwide organizing in Cyberspace
5. a trick by ICANN management to create tame or manageable structures to
deal with.
6. Don't know/abstain
B. Do you want IcannatLarge.org to help develop an independent user structure
1. Outside ICANN's structures
2. If possible inside ICANN via the ALOC
3. outside ICANN's structures, in liaison with other At Large and User Groups
4. Not independent. The structure should depend on what ICANN wants or allows.
5. I don't know what would be best.
Thank you, and I invite panel members to SECOND the proposal if they wish.
Richard, as a member you can run an informal Poll in the
resurrected www.icannatlarge.com/forum
Such a poll can be announced to all 235 Forum registrants.
To deny the membership a vote on this would indicate to many that an
installed leadership is running scared of the views of its own membership. I
really urge the panel to give the membership the natural right to determine
the future direction of the organisation on this crucial issue. Either we're
democratic or we're not.
The website supervisory Panel has never been given the mandate to determine
the direction of the organization without consultation of the membership.
If they try, the members will declare their "independence" from them.
--Joop--
www.icannatlarge.com
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