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RE: [atlarge-discuss] [atlarge-panel] let organize the transition
Jefsey Morfin wrote:
| Today, the current elected panel includes :
|
| Vittorio Bertola (Europe)
| Richard Henderson (Europe)
| Youn Jung Park (Asia/Pacific)
| Jefsey Morfin (Europe)
| Bruce Young (North America)
| Edmundo Valenti (Latin America/Caribbean)
| Kimberley J. Heitman (Asia/Pacific)
| Gabriel Pineiro (Latin America/Caribbean)
| Milan Kapetanov (Europe)
| Marc Derriennic (Europe)
| Sotiris Sotiropoulos (North America)
With Richard resigning, we'd also need to add Ted Byfield (North America)
| 3. The reason given by the Chair for delaying is that he
| hesitates on the
| course to take concerning a new election of the panel, wandering if a
| chance is not to be given to the new blood in the Panel. This
| is not a
| decision by the Chair but by the legitimate and complete panel.
You're probably right. But what do we gain by delaying the election for a
few months, while trying to get the Panel, with 6 new members out of 11,
motivated, knowing they are lame ducks?
| "Considering the present status of the Panel there are two
| options: either
| to proceed with despatch to a new Panel election and benefit from the
| accumulated experience, to develop an open structure to be
| discussed; or to
| prepare the April election in fostering a debate based upon
| the recent
| poll, to permit different possible "parties" or projects to structure
| themselves and to better propose their vision and targets to
| the voters.
|
| [ ] I wish to proceed to elections immediately, following
| the same rules
| as last year
| [ ] I wish to respect the April date and actively prepare
| the Panel election
| [ ] I abstain
| "
This don't think this ever went anywhere. Promably because it was buried at
the bottom of a message!
We (the panel membersm, current and future!) need to do a better job of
making proposals. Like prefacing the subject with "PROPOSAL:" or some such.
Bruce Young
Portland, Oregon
bruce@barelyadequate.info
http://www.barelyadequate.info
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| -----Original Message-----
| From: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin [mailto:jefsey@club-internet.fr]
| Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 5:45 AM
| To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
| Cc: atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de
| Subject: [atlarge-discuss] [atlarge-panel] let organize the transition
|
|
| Dear Folks,
| I am sorry that Vittorio is delaying the normal course of
| democracy in this
| organization. Also that a poll has bluntly taken so much
| importance as to
| make some to forget democratic rules.
|
| I therefore formally call the Chair and the Panel to order.
|
| 1. a certain number of Panelists have quitted. The rules
| automatically
| apply, the delay imposed by the Chair to acknowledge the right of the
| people to be represented by the people they elected is
| actually a coup.
| Even if the intents are good. Democracy starts with the
| respects of rules,
| votes, people and order.
|
| Today, the current elected panel includes :
|
| Vittorio Bertola (Europe)
| Richard Henderson (Europe)
| Youn Jung Park (Asia/Pacific)
| Jefsey Morfin (Europe)
| Bruce Young (North America)
| Edmundo Valenti (Latin America/Caribbean)
| Kimberley J. Heitman (Asia/Pacific)
| Gabriel Pineiro (Latin America/Caribbean)
| Milan Kapetanov (Europe)
| Marc Derriennic (Europe)
| Sotiris Sotiropoulos (North America)
|
| Let welcome and thank the five new comers to confirm to this
| list which
| elected them they accept their election, and let beg Thomas
| Roessler to
| include their e-mails in the atlarge-panel list.
|
| 2. should some of them do not accept their election, the next
| in lines are :
|
| Ted Byfield (North America)
| Eric Dierker (North America)
| David Schutt (North America)
| Todd Glassey (North America)
| James Khan (North America)
| Cordley Coit (North America)
| Bob Crawford (North America)
|
| 3. The reason given by the Chair for delaying is that he
| hesitates on the
| course to take concerning a new election of the panel, wandering if a
| chance is not to be given to the new blood in the Panel. This
| is not a
| decision by the Chair but by the legitimate and complete panel.
|
| I therefore present the following motion that I wish other
| panelists will
| second so the Chair puts it to a quick vote:
|
| "Considering the present status of the Panel there are two
| options: either
| to proceed with despatch to a new Panel election and benefit from the
| accumulated experience, to develop an open structure to be
| discussed; or to
| prepare the April election in fostering a debate based upon
| the recent
| poll, to permit different possible "parties" or projects to structure
| themselves and to better propose their vision and targets to
| the voters.
|
| [ ] I wish to proceed to elections immediately, following
| the same rules
| as last year
| [ ] I wish to respect the April date and actively prepare
| the Panel election
| [ ] I abstain
| "
|
| As a general comment: "netocracy" is a complex thing we are
| working out in
| here, probably more than anywhere else, due to our diversity and the
| purpose of our gathering. We need concepts, tools,
| experience, work and
| dedication. This is really a big and important task for
| ourselves, for the
| nets, and probably for the world. Let do not spoil it with
| precipitation,
| misunderstandings or petty feuds. We may really be doing
| something which
| will last in History. This sounds odd, but it may be true.
|
| We are the at large members of the internet governance. ICANN is just
| another structural member as are the GAC, the ITU, etc. We de facto
| represent by our interest, competence and dedication all
| those who share
| through their machines, their domain names, their e-mails,
| their web sites
| the common ownership of their own interconnections. We have
| to accept it,
| we have to build on it, we have not to be stopped by the
| private interests
| of only a few: the interests of everyone must be taken into account.
|
| This is our job and it will be our pride to obtain it.
| jfc
|
|
|
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