Re: [atlarge-discuss] RE: [atlarge-panel] Re: [atlarge-discuss] WE HAD A DREAM, WE HAVE A PROBLEM

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Judyth and all,

  Judyth, as one that has publicly stated that you under some
circumstances
support censorship, I find that  what you swore to below to be of little
or
no value to me or in reality, to any member of this fledgling
organization.
This is not personal, but based logic and ethics.  I have always
throughout
my entire life never supported any form of censorship, and I never shall,

even if I stand alone.  However I think I stand on pretty solid ground
here.

  I do oppose you individually as a watchdog.  I also would oppose myself

in that role/position, or any other member.  The reasons are obvious and
I have
made very clear on a number of occasions.  I hope I don't need to
yet again repeat them.  However if ask, or requested I shall.

  Vittorio erred badly yesterday and in doing so finally earned my
distrust
of him.  He most likely does not care about that now.  He likely will
in the near future.  However he shall find it very difficult to earn any
level of trust from me in the future.  And I doubt he will make
the effort.

espresso@e-scape.net wrote:

> At 20:18 -0800 2003/02/26, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >  I agree with the gist of your remarks here Bruce.  I would add or
> >extend that I don't recall you Vittorio, or Jefsey speaking for me
> >in this same respect as well.  I do recall that both Judyth and Jan
> >stating that INDEPENDENT individuals that are NOT members
> >serve as watchdogs.
>
> Hi, Jeff et al.,
>
> Actually, I said they shouldn't be Panel members or candidates
> for the new Panel. I did not suggest going completely outside
> the group since elections within organizations are commonly
> conducted by officials chosen from among and by the members.
>
> Thus far, Jeff has objected to my serving as a watcher, while a
> few other members are willing to let me do so. Perhaps before
> Vittorio e-mails me the membership list, I should ask whether
> any other member(s) share Jeff's reservations about me and
> whether there are any other members they would prefer. If so,
> I will gladly step aside; if not, I solemnly swear that no
> matter how strongly I hold my own opinions, I would not under
> any circumstances tamper with the expression of the will of
> the membership.
>
> Regards,
>
> Judyth
>
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> Montreal, QC           <espresso@e-scape.net>
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