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Re: [atlarge-discuss] election or disbanding
All what you say, and re-say and quote only say the same
thing:
At 18:21 17/03/03, espresso@e-scape.net wrote:
Otherwise I think I will resign too and let Jefsey continue with
Satyajit and whoever he wants.
either Vittorio is the Chair and the panel has voted to
organize the elections. Or he is not the Chair and I am
to help the Panel to organize the elections it voted.
either Vittorio is the Chair and Eric is an elected
non-yet Panelist, or Vittorio resigned and Bruce
and me may call Eric as well as all the others as
Panelist elect.
Until Vittorio's mail saying he resigned from every
Chairmanship he had, he had not resigned. Now,
he has, I join Bruce in calling every Panelist elect
to join the Panel.
From: <bruce@barelyadequate.info>
| So, on behalf of the remaining Panelists, as I am sure that
| Bruce, I cannot reach now, will support this,
I do!
This is Bruce's ballot in my informal vote:
I am sorry you totally disregarded my vote. I totally
agree with Bruce, in front of your biased ballot.
I totally oppose that you give the list to any Member.
I only demand that you give it back to its legitimate
owner: the Group which it has been stolen from by
Vittorio and that the Panel represents, and that
the remaining Panelists said you and Jan were
legitimate de facto co-trustees, with them not as
individuals but as elected Panelists with the mission
to do it. (Had I known that we would have to go
through the ordeal you impose on us to carry that
mission, bleieve me I would bever have been a
candidate ! and I am not a candidate anymore.
I will leve others to survive you :-).
BTW on a personal point of view I deeply resent that
you had not the decency to put the standard option
on your Gallup and did not reported first to the Members
that I told you so when voting.
That's *exactly* what went wrong with Joop and Vittorio on
previous occasions, and I was sorely disappointed to learn
that you favour the same methods.
What you do not see is that this is what is going deeply
wrong with you. And that what you did not do has now
lead to a take over by Mr. Teernstra after Mr. Bertola used
our silence/silencing to be lected to ALAC.
I understand that may be the way your impatience shows
itself, and I'm impatient now myself - but I still think the
group needs to develop a habit of working together
democratically or there's literally no point to its existence.
Yes. Ma'am. Aie, aie, ma"am.
But while you developped your doctroing of us, among a
few things:
- Vittorio has been elected ALAC and has confused the
ITU ccTLD meetng defending politcial ôptions which
are now used by some detrimentally to the ccTLDs
and will probably deeply affect the future of the DN
holders.
- we did not even had a mail onthe matter but mine.
So we are very far of a position!
- Joop has started his take over of this group
- we have officially lost of few of us and in reallity
probably many
- we have no Panel
- we have no position for Rio so after the Amsterdam
ringmarole: we have lost every credibility
- we have no incorporation permitting us to claim
our rights to the host
- we have no incorporation permitting us to claim
our rights to the DN registrar
- we have a totally outdated site
- new members are coming though two different
sources, so the division is quite consumated
- after many others wanting to impose others their
own theoric democracy to support their own
agenda instead of pragmatically serving it,
we now have a new member on the list.
It was a job well done.
By the way, I've been reading every word but that's not to say
I must inevitably agree with every word. If you're entitled
to dismiss my opinions, you must surely realize I don't have
to adopt yours.
I have no opinion. You have plenty.
I only try to go by the few existing rules of our
mission statement and normal democratic behavior
among civilized democratic countries. Which is to
serve others in permitting them to practically say
what they want.
Not in doctoring them on the way they should
theorically behave.
You want them to build a Unesco. I only want
them to be permitted to vote for a Panel (even
electing you) where I am not candidate, to
incorporate a serious secretariat, so this incredible
situation does not reproduce and they may protect
the Members list from the hi-jacking by Joop,
Vittorio, Jan and you we faced. Then them to
proceed the way they want, even against all
what I personnally think they should do (what
has not to interfere while I organize their vote).
And then to never hear about this anymore.
Dear King Joop, dear Queen Judyth
God bless you. I have nothing against monarchy,
to the countrary, but this is not monarchy this
is kingship, royalty. A monarchy is democratic,
the kingship you attempt is not.
jfc
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