Re: [atlarge-discuss] Please support Joop and all of us

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all fellow members,

J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

> Dear All,
> Joop has started a straw poll on his vision of an @large party. The
> questions are very detailed and corresponds to refinement of his CA (Cyber
> Association) Charter, already tested as the IDNO. He has chosen not to
> coordinate with anyone and decided alone who would be his watchdogs.

  Joop has fore years now thought that he knows what's is best for
everyone with or without their input.  Joop demonstrated in the IDNO
that he wishes to become or be self elevated into a leadership position
for stakeholders.  Nothing wrong with having aspirations, however
unless you have be legitimately elected within some organization
for such a leadership position, you are only seeking to realize
such aspirations.

>
>
> I regret this way risks to add confusion to the already much confused
> @large process. I would have prefered we carry first the Abel's proposition.
>
> But I must acknowledge Joop has the right to do what he thinks best for his
> ideas: Vittorio has cleverly  impeached the Panel from carrying its
> mission. His reasons are of no interest, but in the future we (I) will have
> to protect ourselves against such coups by our seemingly most dedicated ours.

  The dedicated members here likely should be in leadership positions
if the membership elects them to be in such positions.  Vittorio frankly
betrayed the members as did most of the Panel members.

>
>
> I will not resign. Bruce, Eric and I transmitting legitimacy to the next
> Panel, after hopefully carrying our mission to organize its election, is
> the best way to give this organization stable roots. I therefore propose
> Bruce and Eric:
>
> 1. that we accept, as the best solution, to have the vote carried by
> Elisabeth, if she accepts

  This would be a very bad idea Jefsey..

>
> 2. that our second choice is the Abel's proposition
> 3. that our last choice is the use of Joop's booth provided the three of us
> may control it

  None of these will work or be legitimate.

>
> 4. we ask Jan and Judyth to bring every cooperation to these three
> solutions providing them now with the list of the Members (we want no
> further delays/change of mind the day we need it)
> 5. we encourage the members to participate in the current private Joop's
> polling

  Who is "we"?

>
> 6. we however regret that a normal democratic debate cannot currently be
> supported by other pollings
> 7. we work out together a few motions:
>      - one to salute the election of Michael Palage against the obvious
> desire of ICANN and ATT

  Agreed here.

>
>      - one to comment on the RIO meetings
>      - one to call our Members to create a WSIS working group that YJPark
> could lead.

  Any leaders of such a WG should be elected by the members.  YJ
has left this organization under some duress that was unfortunately
earned.

>
>      - one to support Danny Younger's SME constitutency effort

  Waste of time and effort..

>
> jfc
>
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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