Re: [Fwd: [atlarge-discuss] WHAT MOST MEMBERS WANT]

["J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>]

On 20:02 13/04/03, Stephen Waters said:
> On Sun, 2003-04-13 at 12:32, J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
> > No. This is the basis of the simplest system I propose. The only
> > control against fraudluent additional is a published list of the voters
> > IDs that can be checked by everyone.
>
> That still doesn't help, Jefsey. If I impersonate 12 different people,
> there's still no way to prove it. There are hints at detection: the
> Received: email headers might point out a single IP. Apache logs IPs.
> But I could always impersonate each person saying we were on a community
> access point behind an IP. Or disconnect/reconnect to get different IPs
> every time. Or use a tricky SMTP and/or SSL set-up to hide my origin.

As you say there is noway to fight this using technical solutions of low 
cost. And even then (SHA1 keys, credit cards nr, national IDs etc.) nothing 
pemits to prevent ourselves against fraudlent alias. The only warranty we 
have is precisely the Membership list which permts to know that those who 
votes are those we know on the list.

There are however a few tricks to warranty a safer vote:
1. to delay the right to vote - but not to be polled. So, you become a 
voter after a certain number of votes where you vote is quoted, not 
counted. This may discourage fraudulent voter a lot as this is complex.
3. genome. But too expensive for now. I suppose this will be the ultimate 
test. In centuries. Cetainly finger prints as a negative test. But who is 
to bear the cost of the disputes?
2. the noometry. This is something I am quite interested in and I would 
like to build a mailing list upon. The idea is simple: to build a Member's 
brain profile precise enough no to know who he is (too complex) but if we 
already know him. It will probably take time, also to build ways of 
defeating computer brains. But I think we can have it. All the more if the 
brain test is taken at a agreed office.

jfc


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