Re: [atlarge-discuss]

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Rod and all fellow members,

  Not much is being accomplished for an number of obvious and not
so obvious reasons.  The single biggest reason is that there is no
funding by which getting things done, can adequately be accomplished.

  As to "PayPal" several members here, including myself have expressed
and shown by lack of interest of perhaps lack of funds of any kind in some
members instances, to be untrustworthy a facility by which funding can
be safely and adequately collected and accounted for.

Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. wrote:

> Sorry to interrupt this discussion about paypal, but, I am unsure of what
> the point is. Is it possible for someone to post a clear statement as to
> where the group is in its organizational effort? The e-mail discussions seem
> a bit scrambled.
>
> Who is currently leading this effort? How many people are on this list? Why
> does it seem as if nothing is being accomplished?
>
> Rod
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <espresso@e-scape.net>
> To: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 2:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Thawte certificate... WoT
>
> : Sotiris Sotiropoulos said:
> : >> 3) I think a Paypal account would be sufficient for our purposes,
> : >> provided that it was a verified account.
> :
> : and Holger Steiner responded:
> : >Paypal is not known for their reliability or trustiness.
> : >I for instance will never do business with them again.
> :
> : There seem to be quite a number of people who feel that
> : way. PayPal is also being prosecuted in the U.S. for
> : operating an unauthorized bank and being sued by various
> : individuals and companies.
> :
> : One quite reasonable alternative for identification
> : purposes might be to incorporate the group, at least in
> : preliminary form -- e.g., a charter that specifies it is
> : a non-profit operation which exists expressly "to promote
> : public education and information on the need for a
> : non-commercial Internet users' constituency". As primarily
> : educational (rather than a lobby group, private club, etc.)
> : it could probably obtain charitable status without too
> : much difficulty, and it could legitimately use any
> : donations collected to pay the eventual ICANNATLARGE.ORG
> : to develop the educational materials, user forums, etc.
> : for its Web site.
> :
> : This new organization could then open a real bank account
> : and ask prospective members to send in small personal
> : donations by personal cheque or electronic transfer,
> : along with a real-world name and address as well as their
> : online identity. There would thus be no need to have
> : PayPal or Verisign or whoever involved, and people who
> : have no actual need of their own digital certificate (which
> : is most people around the world) wouldn't be compelled
> : to pay for one. Meanwhile, the money collected could
> : actually be used to do something useful.
> :
> :
> : My two cents Canadian, FWIW,
> :
> : Judyth
> :
> :
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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