[atlarge-discuss] Re: California Senate Approves Net Tax Bill

["Jkhan" <Jkhan@MetroMgr.com>]

Jeff, Jefsey et.al. fellow members,

I originally posted the reference, to see how members were prepared to stand
and handle the issues of  Internet Taxes.

It has been my opinion that if this Group does not found itself within the
constitutional properties of the World's Nations, it will have no sound
means to allow it into legal venues with these Nation States. They (the
World's Nation States) will simple reject a complaint on the grounds that
the body representing the issue is not sufficiently founded in Law and
therefore dismiss the matter. Most likely on a Summary Judgment. But this is
speculation on what Court/Bench may decide.

These Taxing issues will most likely expand then contract by tax reprocity
treaties, however they will not become moderated unless contested by groups,
perhaps such as Icannatlarge.

It will be interesting to see how the Panel will invent this aspect of
legitimacy within it's By-Laws/Charter/ Constitution.

We have already seen how Nation States have being to come to grips with
ccTDLs ( i.e.; the US via ICANN MoU, Re:  JFC
http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc10/msg01927.html ), the NSO.

This is just the Tip-of-the-Iceberg-Online, .... Patriot Act II,
Intellectual Property rights, Commerce Trade sanctions and conflicts....
on, on, on.
--

These are related article:

http://www.exportassist.com/fscnews.html

http://www.thestandard.com/article/0,1902,18144,00.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31342-2003May8.html

http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/5822826.htm

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/121158_amazontax09.html

jk

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>
Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] California Senate Approves Net Tax Bill


> Jefsey and all fellow members,
>
>  Let's see if I can offer some brief answers to some your questions
> below Jefsey.
>
> J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
>
> > On 10:29 11/05/03, Jeff Williams said:
> > > >From the below article you quote James:
> > >"State Senator Alpert issued a press  release Thursday stating the bill
> > >passed and that it clarified "that an out-of-state retailer is
obligated
> > >to collect tax on sales to California customers if it has
> > >representatives operating in the state who repair or service property
> > >bought from the retailer; it has an ownership interest in a California
> > >business; or it sells the same products under the same name as the
> > >California business
> >
> > Seems that more or less every business on earth may be said to fall in
such
> > lose categories?
> > What is a retailer on the net?  Is someone with a link on his site a
retailer?
>
> Yes he/she/they would be IF they are aiding in any way the sale of that
> retailer of whatever service or wares they may be selling.
>
>
> >
> > What is a representative nowadays. TIA may say that you got an e-mail
with
> > the retailer.
> > What is an ownership interest?
>
>   And ownership interesting the terms of this proposed legislation is
> a traditional as it applies online or via the Internet/web.  That interest
may
> be a privately held company or a publically held one.  Indeed it may even
> be a non-profit corp./entity.
>
> > If I purchased some stock, or I am on a Fund
> > whch purchased... TIA will know, I will not.
>
>  HUH?  How would you not know that you purchased the stock
> and in doing so secured a type of relationship?
>
> >
> > Is it my Franglish? but products are plural and name is singular.
>
>   GEneric names for instance are not always singular Jefsey, even in
French!
> SO again I and gathering here a intent to obviscate or confusion your part
> in this comment/remark of your.  Why do so?
>
> > In French
> > it would mean we talk about a product line? What is a name? Generic or
TM
> > (car or Ford mdel so and so)?
>
>   Your last question just answered you previous two here in part.
>
> >
> > But most of all, how di I know that this is a California customer
without
> > asking TIA?
>
>  The legislation if you read the excerpt that I posted closely, directly
> and indirectly as well briefly outlines that very clearly.
>
> >
> >
> > All these questions will have an impact since other states will copy or
> > retaliate (as you know USA were condemned by WTO for 10 billions to
> > Europe).
>
> Where is this WTO contention documented?
>
> > This may mare the net, or lead it to be in some case a few large
> > extranets.
> > jfc
> >
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> Regards,
>
> --
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