RE: [atlarge-discuss] Bruce' s list

[Eric Dierker <eric@hi-tek.com>]

Life and discussions to not always satisfy everyones likings.
I have been watching but not reacting so that I may learn and not teach.
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> @Large members;
> 
> Lots of discussion to digest this morning. Speaking of digest, would it
> be possible for this email list to have that option such as is
> available on other Group/Community forums, i.e. Yahoo?  Which brings to
> mind, why reinvent the wheel with any such phpBB "forum" when a more
> respectable solution might be to take advantage of the programming
> prowess of Yahoo or MSN perhaps?  Anyway, I digress....
> 
> The URL for the voting page below is out-of-date, appears to be some
> who are listed as Accepted who in reality have withdrawn.  To me, this
> is another argument for consolidating all ICANN @Large related
> discussion groups into a Yahoo or MSN or SmartGroups or SOMETHING that
> may be considered at least predominantly :official" and which may be
> centralized.
> 
> Also, I agree wholeheartedly with a previous Poster (Abel I believe)
> about this forum NOT being a place where personal invective should be
> allowed or tolerated. Stand by, more to come on the rest of the list.  
> 
> Regards T'all,
>  
> Jeff Holt 
> The Tall Tejas Traveler
>  
> Life is Too Short.....
> NOT to be Tall!
> www.tejas-info-services.com
>  
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joop Teernstra [mailto:terastra@terabytz.co.nz] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:32 PM
> To: abel@able-towers.com; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Bruce' s list
> 
> At 10:36 p.m. 13/05/2003, you wrote:
>>If I could find this list, I would be a lot wiser.
> 
> www.icannatlarge.org/voting.htm
> 
> Information about Nominators and seconds is missing here and the list
> has 
> not been updated for a week.
> 
> 
>>I have been asking whether my nomination was seconded for some time,
> and
>>have been reading that such was the case.
> 
> That's called hearsay.
> The voters need to be able to check from the archives.
> 
>>In accordance with some rules that the seconding need not be public
>>(weird but for now I can live with it) the who and why was not
>>disclosed.
> 
> Non-public (secret) Nominations or seconds are not democratic.
> 
>>If it comes to publicly seconded nominees, then there are far less then
>>this "list" suggests, since those endorsements should then be posted to
>>this list by the person seconding the nominee. Though paying reasonable
>>close attention I have seen very very few, if any.
> 
> True.
> 
>>If seconding in the polling booth on Joop's site by anonymous people is
>>counted as seconding then I do not see why the anon seconding from the
>>panel should be treated differently.
> 
> The Polling Booth exercise was announced as pre-nomination intended to 
> increase participation in the Nomination process. Since the resulting
> list 
> does not mention Nominators/seconders individually, only in aggregate,
> they 
> are strictly speaking not valid Nominations and they should be
> validated by 
> Public Seconding.
> 
> Jefsey ought to extend the time for this to happen if he wants to
> restore 
> the credibility of the process.
> 
>>I do repeat however that in the case I am not seconded I will
> definitely
>>not be a candidate, despite my earlier acceptance under the impression
>>of being seconded.
> 
> You can be excused for accepting because of the phrasing of  Jefsey's
> mail 
> to you.
> 
> 
>>Dual nomination is seconding as well was stated, in which case I will
>>disregard the seconding by Claude Thiellet, since it is not clear that
>>he is "his own man" or imaginary (strange that this all of a sudden
>>becomes an issue)
> 
> It becomes an issue because Jefsey and his "polling committee"
> neglected to 
> close the voters' list at the time of the election announcement.
> If you look at the members list on www.icannatlarge.org, there has been
> a 
> recent influx of spurious ("Ali Bali") and double entries, who may
> receive 
> double ballots.
> 
> 
> -joop-
> 
> 
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