RE: [atlarge-discuss] $1 verification.

["Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>]

As so many times, and Danny Younger's email is another example, the
discussion seems totally "Americanized".

The internet and atlarge are not an American prerogative, they are
international.

On verification:
The objection against Paypal is simple, the account name and credit card
do not need to be the same person, hence I can still add asmany entities
as I want, as long as paypal gets paid they are happy.
CC's are the last means of identifying anyone, as long as the
CC-companies are making a profit on fraudulent use of those cards (where
data is duplicated, generated or stolen) no one can ever be sure of a
credit card user online and even with a swipe one should not be amazed
to find fraudulent cards.

Cheques (personal) great, but only in the "English" way of banking (i.e.
USA and UK) there are many countries in the world, like the Netherlands
where people do not use cheques, but instead debit cards, credit cards
and direct bank transfers.
The cost of sending a cheque for $ 1 to anyone in the US from the UK is
ridiculous, the receving party pays around $ 10 and the sending pays at
least that if not $ 15 which all goes to the banks. Therefore this
"might" work for "local vouchers" in those countries but not for
international centralized usage.

Thawte though flawed and expensive is a viable alternative, but again...
Cost.

Another perhaps viable alternative would be to let those people that are
"trusted" and 100% verified verify "local" members, by calling, checking
on data as drivers license, postal address and such, to then (a la
thawte) verify that the person is real. In other words, our own thawte
system, with sufficient members world wide that should be easy to set
up.

On "lobbying":

This in only usefull if we decide that the US governement is authorative
for all of the internet, something I at least don't and I am sure there
are many with me that think the same.
With the many net forms around, and the members coming from all over the
globe participating in all current activities surrounding some form of
internet governance is good, but not the end to all means.

I think we should look to other cultures, alternative nets and combine
all those to come to that what we want to do: represent all user of the
globe.

That might mean lobbying in local areas such as the US and EU and South
America and Australia and so on and yes if one day possible even China.

Let's keep things global 

Abel



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