Re: [atlarge-discuss] $1 verification.

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Abel and all fellow members,

  Very good points and arguments made here Able.  Well done!

  Indeed your original point made two days ago now was spot on.
That being as I understand it, that multiple methods of verification
of identity for a global organization such as ICANNATLARGE.ORG
is a requirement if indeed we are to be a truly global organization.

  My company recognized this as far back a 1995, and addressed it
in several ways via developing a product for international ecommerce
transactions that we named the "Interface Facility" for lack of a better
term.  It is expensive, but very comprehensive and it is widely used
and accepted in the EU and asia.  There are however many other
methods (Plural) that can be implemented and utilized by this
fledgling organization.  But again none that I know of would be
cheep or by no means free if security and safety are to be
considered for the members and future members.

Abel Wisman wrote:

> As so many times, and Danny Younger's email is another example, the
> discussion seems totally "Americanized".
>
> The internet and atlarge are not an American prerogative, they are
> international.
>
> On verification:
> The objection against Paypal is simple, the account name and credit card
> do not need to be the same person, hence I can still add asmany entities
> as I want, as long as paypal gets paid they are happy.
> CC's are the last means of identifying anyone, as long as the
> CC-companies are making a profit on fraudulent use of those cards (where
> data is duplicated, generated or stolen) no one can ever be sure of a
> credit card user online and even with a swipe one should not be amazed
> to find fraudulent cards.
>
> Cheques (personal) great, but only in the "English" way of banking (i.e.
> USA and UK) there are many countries in the world, like the Netherlands
> where people do not use cheques, but instead debit cards, credit cards
> and direct bank transfers.
> The cost of sending a cheque for $ 1 to anyone in the US from the UK is
> ridiculous, the receving party pays around $ 10 and the sending pays at
> least that if not $ 15 which all goes to the banks. Therefore this
> "might" work for "local vouchers" in those countries but not for
> international centralized usage.
>
> Thawte though flawed and expensive is a viable alternative, but again...
> Cost.
>
> Another perhaps viable alternative would be to let those people that are
> "trusted" and 100% verified verify "local" members, by calling, checking
> on data as drivers license, postal address and such, to then (a la
> thawte) verify that the person is real. In other words, our own thawte
> system, with sufficient members world wide that should be easy to set
> up.
>
> On "lobbying":
>
> This in only usefull if we decide that the US governement is authorative
> for all of the internet, something I at least don't and I am sure there
> are many with me that think the same.
> With the many net forms around, and the members coming from all over the
> globe participating in all current activities surrounding some form of
> internet governance is good, but not the end to all means.
>
> I think we should look to other cultures, alternative nets and combine
> all those to come to that what we want to do: represent all user of the
> globe.
>
> That might mean lobbying in local areas such as the US and EU and South
> America and Australia and so on and yes if one day possible even China.
>
> Let's keep things global
>
> Abel
>
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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