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-----Original Message-----
From: Abel Wisman [mailto:abel@able-towers.com] 
Sent: 01 June 2003 16:12
To: 'Jeff Holt'
Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS


To which I agree but there is a difference to be verified and to post
all that data I was simply saying if someone is verified he'she is not
obliged to post anything, it is up to the voters to decide on the
candidate

Abel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Holt [mailto:jefftttt@txucom.net]
> Sent: 01 June 2003 16:10
> To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Cc: abel@able-towers.com
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS
> 
> 
> @Large,
> 
> Unfortunately this is not necessarily true.  Identity
> verification and certification should definitely be 
> mandatory.  One does not have a right to anonymity when 
> running for office to represent others.  It can be shown 
> historically that voters will at times mark ballots randomly 
> and I would hazard a guess that in some elections even 
> "Mickey Mouse" could gain election.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> TTTT
> Jeff Holt
> Jefftttt@txucom.net
> www.tejas-info-services.com
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Abel Wisman [mailto:abel@able-towers.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:29 AM
> To: 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS
> 
> Since I do not know those candidates either, I would be just
> as eager to receive some info from them.
> 
> Making this mandatory however is not a good idea, somehow
> they gained the votes they did, so some people know them 
> enough to vote for them. It is up toi any candidate to run 
> the way he wants for any post, it is up to the members to 
> decide if they agree with his/her methods.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Abel
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
> > Sent: 01 June 2003 11:53
> > To: A/S Mauro D. Ríos; Atlarge Discuss List; J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
> > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS
> > 
> > 
> > I support Mauro's request. There are several members of the elected 
> > panel who are not known to some of us - so some kind of personal 
> > introduction / statement of vision would be
> very helpful.
> > 
> > In future elections, this kind of data should be mandatory for all 
> > prospective candidates. The electorate has a right to know who they 
> > are voting for.
> > 
> > Richard Henderson
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: A/S Mauro D. Ríos 
> >   To: Atlarge Discuss List ; J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin 
> >   Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 6:30 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS
> > 
> > 
> >   Dear all,
> >    
> >   Thank you Jefsey for the list.
> > 
> >   Curiosity: Would somebody to provide me references of Andre 
> > Rebentisch?, have not I found ANYTHING in the list or @Large, have I

> > only seen brief references in "odem.org" and "ffii.org", but have 
> > not I found ANY message, comment, fact or answers in @Large.
> > 
> >   In the verification report it is totally EMPTY for Andre
> Rebentisch
> >   
> > http://www.starwalker.org/icannatlarge/verfication_committe_re
> > ports/report03.5.html
> > 
> > 
> >   Congratulations to all!  
> >   Congratulations to the organizers, against the wind and the tide, 
> > we have arrived at the end.
> > 
> >   greetings  
> >   Mauro. -
> >    
> >     ----- Mensaje original ----- 
> >     De: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin 
> >     Para: Atlarge Discuss List 
> >     Enviado: domingo, 01 de junio de 2003 0:14
> >     Asunto: [atlarge-discuss] REPROT ON ELECTION AND RESULTS
> > 
> > 
> >     This message seems blocked by the mailing list. I resend it in 
> > two parts.
> >     Sorry for the unexpected delay.
> >     Part 1.
> >     ====================================
> > 
> >     Dear Polling Committee Members,
> >     Dear Watchdogs
> >     Dear Members,
> >     1. the raw data of the election as received by the 
> > exec@atlarge.org before
> >     Sunday June 1st, 00:00 GMT have been compacted and
> crypted as the
> >     "sealed.zip" file and sent to the members of the polling
> > committee. It is 
> >     copied on several disks and copied on several machines.
> > 
> >     2. the name of the list has been changed as "atlarge-closed" to 
> > make a
> >     difference with the ballot arriving after the limit which
> > will not 
> >     participate to the election.
> > 
> >     3. the following files have been sent to the watchdogs
> >     - atlarge.vid the list of the VID of all the Members
> >     - atlarge.wtc the data of all the ballots stripped from
> any other
> >     indication than the number of the line, the VID of the voter, 
> > the order of
> >     reception, the vote and the matter.
> >     - atlarge.vtv the sorted list of the VIDs of the voters.
> >     - atlarge.vtr the sorted list of the voters
> >     - the watch.c current version
> > 
> >     5. This file will be made available online to all the Members as

> > soon as I
> >     get some information from volunteers for an FTP site. I
> > will then forward a 
> >     mail to the whole membership.
> > 
> >     4. The provisional results (subject to Members verification of 
> > the watch.c
> >     program) are:
> >      >>>
> >      >>> Voters: 216
> >      >>>
> > 
> >      >>>
> >      >>> ELECTED PANEL
> >      >>>
> >     =>24  Joop Teernstra                              :  100 (1)
> >     =>07  David Goldstein                             :   71 (2)
> >     =>11  Sebastian Klein                             :   68 (3)
> >     =>04  Daniel  Chirita                             :   67 (4)
> >     =>25  Daniel Tobias                               :   63 (5)
> >     =>18  Andre Rebentisch                            :   61 (6)
> >     =>27  Abel Wisman                                 :   61 (7)
> >     =>03  Hugh Blair                                  :   59 (8)
> >     =>13  Gilbert Lumantao                            :   59 (9)
> >     =>14  Ivonne Valeria Muñoz Torres                 :   59 (10)
> >     =>23  Sotiris Sotiropoulos                        :   51 (11)
> > 
> >      >>>
> >      >>> FOLLOWERS:
> >      >>>
> >     =>19  Mauro Demian Rios                           :   48 (12)
> >     =>20  Jonathan Robin                              :   47 (13)
> >     =>08  James Graham                                :   46 (14)
> >     =>09  Catherine Hughes                            :   46 (15)
> >     =>16  Dominic Pinto                               :   46 (16)
> >     =>02  Thierry Amoussougbo                         :   44 (17)
> >     =>12  Curtis M Kularski                           :   44 (18)
> >      >>>
> >      >>> NOT ELECTED:
> >      >>>
> >     =>05  Bob Crawford                                :   41 (19)
> >     =>15  Pierre Ouedraogo                            :   39 (20)
> >     =>17  Mark Poole                                  :   35 (21)
> >     =>10  William Jones                               :   30 (22)
> >     =>22  Paustinus Siburian                          :   25 (23)
> >     =>01  Asaad Alnajjar                              :   22 (24)
> >     =>21  Maniam S                                    :   22 (25)
> >     =>06  Kristen Doyle                               :   20 (26)
> >     =>26  James Voorhees                              :   10 (27)
> > 
> >     END PART 1
> >     PART 2 TO FOLLOW
> >     .........
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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