Re: [atlarge-discuss] LET'S GET GOING: Determining a Chair forthePanel

["Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>]

YES, YES, YES

Internet Users @ Large, perhaps?  (iUAL)

To keep the @Large association, but to ditch the ICANN association.

Ron Sherwood

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
To: "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>; <gilbert.lumantao@mailcity.com>;
"'Atlarge Discuss List'" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] LET'S GET GOING: Determining a Chair
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> OK
>
> Let's have another vote then.
>
> Question:
>
> Would you rather another name instead of Icannatlarge.org for our
> organisation?
>
> YES:
> NO:
>
> And stick it in the next Poll
> (Be a good idea to do it *before* we start outreach and interacting with
the
> media though!)
>
> If the response is YES, we'd rather another name, then we know it won by
> default and we vote on a new option.
>
> What's the point of having a name people don't really want?
>
>
> Richard H
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> To: Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>;
> <gilbert.lumantao@mailcity.com>; 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 8:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] LET'S GET GOING: Determining a Chair
> forthePanel
>
>
> > > But there you go... we decided on this name... and I believe in
> democracy
> > >
> > > Richard H
> >
> > Not true. More people voted for other choices. I take responsibility and
> > apologise. As Chair, I made a bad decision by deciding to run the vote
> using
> > "instant run off", where people had 4 choices and numbered them in
> priority
> > 1,2,3,4 against the 4 options. I thought it was important to have a
clear
> > winner, and was concerned that with only one vote and 4 options, the
vote
> > would be split and no clear decision emerge. Most people just voted
their
> > first choice, or first and second choice and left the rest blank, or put
> > ICANNATlarge 3rd. In the first round, it was a close call between two
> > strongest contenders and neither were ICANNAtlarge, so the name with the
> > least votes was eliminated and people who had voted for that name, we
then
> > counted their second choice and so on. It went all the way to the fourth
> > round before a simple majority was established for ICANNatlarge, but you
> > have to appreciate that most votes had been eliminated, or were a
member's
> > 3rd or 4th choice by that stage. The name won by default.
> >
> > So I don't think you can say it was the democratic will of the
membership,
> > or that we are stuck with it when more members voted for other names
than
> > ICANNatlarge. What is clear, is that if we just took the number 1 one
vote
> > and done a straight count, ICANNatlarge would not have won.
> >
> > Joanna
> >
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> > > To: <gilbert.lumantao@mailcity.com>; 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> > > <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:00 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] LET'S GET GOING: Determining a Chair
for
> > > thePanel
> > >
> > >
> > > > > 7. we should use icannatlarge.org in everything we do (website,
> > > > > mailing list, ftp, etc.) unless there is a valid reason not to.
> > > > >
> > > > > gilbert
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Gilbert,
> > > > Icannatlarge.org will never have a registered trademark,
> > > (becuase "ICANN"
> > > is
> > > > already registered). And it also means that ICANN itself can
> > > shut down the
> > > > organization at any time they choose by sending a "cease and
> > > desist using
> > > > our name" letter. Do you also realize that Panelists can be held
> > > personally
> > > > liable for breach of ICANN's copyright? And if you start to
> > > fundraise for
> > > an
> > > > organization called ICANNatanything, don't you think ICANN
> > > could claim you
> > > > are raising funds in their name?
> > > >
> > > > Joanna
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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