Re: [atlarge-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [Panel] Proposal for agenda]

["Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>]

Dear Joanna:

A car accident can prevent anyone from doing anything.  It is wrong (and
totally unnecessary) to prejudge anyone of anything and impose arbitrary
long term penalties.  If an elected member fails to meet the terms of office
within the prescribed time, she has disqualified herself, period.  We then
move on.

I am, however, very interested in finding out how someone who is not known
by any other members, who has not given an email address (or responded to
correspondence at a given address), and who is not interested enough in the
job to post a single comment, can get the sixth largest number of votes.

Just who cast those votes, I wonder.

Ron Sherwood

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>
To: "Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>; "Sotiris Sotiropoulos"
<sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
Cc: "At Large Discuss" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 2:40 AM
Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [Panel] Proposal for agenda]


> A car accident cannot be responsible for a candidate failing to provide a
> contact email address.
>
> It would be a mistake to think this is about removing valid Panel Members
> from elected office, when these "candidates" have not publicly accepted
> their positions. Do not bestow that honor unless you see a public response
> on this list, not to mention that had some minimum qualifying criteria
been
> set by a competent Polling Committee, they may well not have made it onto
> the ballot at all.
>
> Let's remember that the interests of the organization come first, and not
> the interests of any particular member. It is within the power of each of
> these "candidates" to respond to this list with a single post that takes
> less than 5 minutes to produce. If they cannot do that within a reasonable
> period of time following the election, for whatever reason, then others
are
> ready and willing to take their place. That is the right thing to do.
>
> Let's get some perspective on this. This was not a worldwide election with
> millions of voters appointing a World Government. It is a very small
> organization of some 1000 members, where the number of votes that separate
> those that made the Panel from those that followed, is literally a
handful.
> Get whoever else is needed to make up the 11 on board by first thing
Monday
> morning, and let's get started on solving the real problems in the real
> world, not the ones we are creating for ourselves in some fantasyland.
>
> The purpose of a 5 year disqualification period is not only to limit the
> damage from a repeat offender, but also to act as a deterrent to others
eye
> these elections as a way to enhance their Resume without getting their
hands
> dirty. And there are quite a few of those around here.
>
> Joanna
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: Ron Sherwood [mailto:sherwood@islands.vi]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:58 AM
> > To: Joanna Lane; Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> > Cc: At Large Discuss
> > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [Panel] Proposal for agenda]
> >
> >
> > Good morning, Joanna:
> >
> > You wrote:
> > > I agree. And any that are disqualified forfeit the right to stand for
> > > re-election to the Panel for 5 years.
> > > Joanna
> >
> > Joanna: I don't agree with that arbitrary judgment.  In practice their
> > record will be held against them in any future election, and there are
> > certainly members who will point out what has happened in the past, but
we
> > have no means of knowing why someone has stayed silent at this time.
Car
> > accident? Sudden personal crisis that was more important than this
> > particular issue at this particular time? Who are we to judge until we
are
> > faced with an explanation?
> >
> > Best regards, Ron Sherwood
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>
> > To: "Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>; "Sotiris Sotiropoulos"
> > <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
> > Cc: "At Large Discuss" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:37 AM
> > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] [Fwd: Re: [Panel] Proposal for agenda]
> >
> >
> > > > I am concerned about elected Panel members who have not
> > responded to the
> > > > call for identification, verification and an introductory post to
the
> > > > membership discuss list. It is my strong opinion that if any
> > of those so
> > > > elected do not comply with these three conditions by 00:00am Sunday,
> > they
> > > > have disqualified themselves from the right to office and should
> > > > be replaced
> > > > by those who gained the next highest number of votes, and who
> > > > have fulfilled
> > > > those conditions.
> > > >
> > > > Ron Sherwood
> > >
> > > I agree. And any that are disqualified forfeit the right to stand for
> > > re-election to the Panel for 5 years.
> > > Joanna
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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