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Re: [atlarge-discuss] RE : [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees & corporate status
I respect that proposal, Jeff, as a reasonable argument.
My slight preference is for an overseas incorporation for the reason that
part of the At Large agenda for many includes wresting internet governance
free not only of ICANN, but of USG who basically set up ICANN for its own
reasons.
I don't mean to be in any way anti-American in this, but symbolically there
might be some strength in establishing the organisation in a foreign
country, so it is seen as clearly representing the rest of the world... it
would feel symbolically more independent, more 'hey! what about the rest of
the world!'
This is not an essential point (and I agree that in practical financial
terms there might be gains from US incorporation) but it is my personal
preference. Also, I don't know if we would be legally a bit less liable to
harrassment, if we were a non-US entity.
yrs,
Richard Henderson
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Holt <jefftttt@txucom.net>
To: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 2:10 AM
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] RE : [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees &
corporate status
@Large,
Should this organization decide to do so, incorporating in the USA under
Internal Revenue Code § 501©(3) as a not-for-profit, educational
organization would give a preferred status and make donations (in the US
at least) tax deductible. How this might effect taxing in other nations
might be worth investigating, but with a substantial number of members
capable of financially contributing in the US, it is something to
consider.
Sincerely,
TTTT
Jefftttt@txucom.net
www.tejas-info-services.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dassa [mailto:dassa@dhs.org]
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:21 PM
To: 'Atlarge Discuss List'
Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] RE : [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees
|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
|> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 4:07 AM
|> To: 'Atlarge Discuss List'
|> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] RE : [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees
|>
<SNIP>
|> ----- Original Message -----
|> From: Daniel CHIRITA <daniel@chirita.org>
|>
|> >Can you explain please ? Do you want membership levels,
|> with different
|> >advantages according to their financial contribution ? If
|> it is that, I
|> >do not agree, we must keep our open statute. We can accept
|> gifts but
|> >that should give place to no advantage in return !
|> >
|> >Daniel CHIRITA
|>
|> What I can't get my head round is that people all over the
|> world - ordinary internet users - should be expected to pay
|> for the right to participate in our campaigns for democratic
|> governance of the net by ordinary users. Nor can I see why
|> people should have to *pay* for the right to vote for the
|> advancement of this cause.
<SNIP>
Nothing in this world is free as the saying goes. There are costs to be
covered and the need for funding is there. I disagree with relying on
donations and good will as past experience has shown a small number end
up covering the costs for the majority and the majority takes advantage
when possible and doesn't contribute anything constructive outside of
their own narrow focus.
I believe a non-financial group is a must for the organisation but I
disagree with giving them exactly the same rights as those who
financially support it. For instance, I would limit office bearers and
voting on organisational structure only to financial members but would
have open voting on the issues the organisation would involve itself.
This would meet our need to allow all to participate but provide some
protection for the organisational structure. In the interest of not
creating a power groups, I'd leave the membership at the two classes and
try to keep it simple. Sponsors are a different matter to membership.
Darryl (Dassa) Lynch
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