RE: [atlarge-discuss] 263 and mailing list rules

["Cheryl Langdon-Orr" <cheryl@hovtek.com.au>]

Only 1550 hrs on a Public Holiday Monday here in Sydney, but I couldn't
agree more with the sentiments outlined by Joanna below...

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

-----Original Message-----
From: Joanna Lane [mailto:jo-uk@rcn.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 June 2003 3:43 PM
To: Joop Teernstra; Sotiris Sotiropoulos; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] 263 and mailing list rules


Folks,
At the time of writing (1.30am Monday morning), I'm looking at 263 emails in
my At-Large inbox and that doesn't include any Panel posts that I would like
to review, or those that go straight to the trash, like Jeff Williams.

Now I see some discussion about mailing list rules. How many times have I
debated this issue before? Let's be conservative...maybe 6 times...and I
know I've written at least 2 sets.

I'm sorry, but if you guys intend to start from scratch and go over all the
minutiae again - then count me out - life is too short to go round in these
small circles. Why doesn't the Panel cut to the chase, adopt the rules from
WG-Review and be done with it. You can always revisit later, but they will
do for now.

At this rate, I can safely take time out for a year, and you still won't
have got round to any serious policy development.

It's not mailing list rules you need so much as an ability to recognize the
good work of past groups and save it, rather than always thinking you have
to start from scratch.

Joanna


> Mailing List Rules
>
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> members. Respect
> it. It is there to support  a cooperative effort that should earn the
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>
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> the moderator(s). Moderation consists of exhortations by a moderator who
> reminds forum members of the rules and can give warnings.
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> In order to prevent unpleasant situations from arising remember
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> the list by stirring up emotions.
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> Many of the people that will congregate here initially have
> interacted with
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> assassination that has prevailed on other mailing lists.
>
>
> The following rules will apply with regards to False Statements:
> False statements can be made innocently as a result of an honest
> mistake in
> recollection.
> However, they can also serve as provocations that skirt the civility rule.
>
> a. When a false statement is made, each member who knows
> otherwise has the
> right to challenge the statement with the comment FALSE or PLEASE RETRACT.
> b. When such a challenge is issued, the poster so challenged must provide
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> d. When the challenged statement is a negative, (such as "I have never
> said...") and therefore not provable, the challenger must provide proof
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> e. Refusal to retract an unproven FALSE challenge in case of a negative
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> -joop-
>
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