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Re: [atlarge-discuss] 263 and mailing list rules
I too support Joanna's proposition.
--Sotiris Sotiropoulos
Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
Only 1550 hrs on a Public Holiday Monday here in Sydney, but I couldn't
agree more with the sentiments outlined by Joanna below...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr
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From: Joanna Lane [mailto:jo-uk@rcn.com]
Sent: Monday, 9 June 2003 3:43 PM
To: Joop Teernstra; Sotiris Sotiropoulos; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] 263 and mailing list rules
Folks,
At the time of writing (1.30am Monday morning), I'm looking at 263 emails in
my At-Large inbox and that doesn't include any Panel posts that I would like
to review, or those that go straight to the trash, like Jeff Williams.
Now I see some discussion about mailing list rules. How many times have I
debated this issue before? Let's be conservative...maybe 6 times...and I
know I've written at least 2 sets.
I'm sorry, but if you guys intend to start from scratch and go over all the
minutiae again - then count me out - life is too short to go round in these
small circles. Why doesn't the Panel cut to the chase, adopt the rules from
WG-Review and be done with it. You can always revisit later, but they will
do for now.
At this rate, I can safely take time out for a year, and you still won't
have got round to any serious policy development.
It's not mailing list rules you need so much as an ability to recognize the
good work of past groups and save it, rather than always thinking you have
to start from scratch.
Joanna
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-joop-
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"The science of jurisprudence regards the state and power as the
ancients regarded fire- namely, as something existing absolutely.
But for history, the state and power are merely phenomena, just as for
modern physics fire is not an element but a phenomenon.
From this fundamental difference between the view held by history
and that held by jurisprudence, it follows that jurisprudence can tell
minutely how in its opinion power should be constituted and what
power- existing immutably outside time- is, but to history's questions
about the meaning of the mutations of power in time it can answer
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