Re: [atlarge-discuss] 263 and mailing list rules

["Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>]

The priority is setting up key processes, such as:

How we appoint Committees and their Chairs
How members can introduce motions
Work on Electoral Process to safeguard the next election
How the Polling Booth is going to be used in future
Plans for the structure and development of the Website

And once the Committees are structured and set up...

Actually working on Mission, Objectives, Bylaws, Communication etc etc

We need to decide what we are actually going to *produce* in the coming
months, and then work back from that, and do whatever is needed to achieve
that *product* and be pretty ruthless about that. Otherwise things just get
circular and you get a mish-mash of jumbled agendas and messages.

It's very early days in the life of the new panel, but clearly targets need
to be agreed and defined.

What do the Members want this panel to achieve, and during what time period?


Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
To: Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>; Sotiris Sotiropoulos
<sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>; <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:43 AM
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] 263 and mailing list rules


> Folks,
> At the time of writing (1.30am Monday morning), I'm looking at 263 emails
in
> my At-Large inbox and that doesn't include any Panel posts that I would
like
> to review, or those that go straight to the trash, like Jeff Williams.
>
> Now I see some discussion about mailing list rules. How many times have I
> debated this issue before? Let's be conservative...maybe 6 times...and I
> know I've written at least 2 sets.
>
> I'm sorry, but if you guys intend to start from scratch and go over all
the
> minutiae again - then count me out - life is too short to go round in
these
> small circles. Why doesn't the Panel cut to the chase, adopt the rules
from
> WG-Review and be done with it. You can always revisit later, but they will
> do for now.
>
> At this rate, I can safely take time out for a year, and you still won't
> have got round to any serious policy development.
>
> It's not mailing list rules you need so much as an ability to recognize
the
> good work of past groups and save it, rather than always thinking you have
> to start from scratch.
>
> Joanna
>
>
> > Mailing List Rules
> >
> > 1. This Mailing List is a volunteer effort of icannatlarge
> > members. Respect
> > it. It is there to support  a cooperative effort that should earn the
> > respect of all.
> >
> > 2. This forum is not moderated in the sense of pre-vetting of messages
by
> > the moderator(s). Moderation consists of exhortations by a moderator who
> > reminds forum members of the rules and can give warnings.
> >
> > In order to prevent unpleasant situations from arising remember
> > the golden
> > rule: "do not feed the troll", i.e., ignore the person who tries to
abuse
> > the list by stirring up emotions.
> >
> > 3. Remain civil at all times, even when you feel provoked. Persistent
> > incivility will be rewarded with removal from the Forum.
> >
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> > threatening, sexually-orientated or any other material that may
> > violate any
> > applicable laws. Doing so willfully may lead to you being immediately
and
> > permanently banned or you posting rights being restricted.
> > As a subscriber  you agree that  any posting that you have made is being
> > stored in a web based archive.
> > Civility includes not to repost private correspondence, unless such
> > correspondence was abusive or threatening and its reposting is in the
> > public interest.
> >
> > 4. Provocations by way of false statements.
> > Many of the people that will congregate here initially have
> > interacted with
> > each other before. Some may want to repeat the pattern of character
> > assassination that has prevailed on other mailing lists.
> >
> >
> > The following rules will apply with regards to False Statements:
> > False statements can be made innocently as a result of an honest
> > mistake in
> > recollection.
> > However, they can also serve as provocations that skirt the civility
rule.
> >
> > a. When a false statement is made, each member who knows
> > otherwise has the
> > right to challenge the statement with the comment FALSE or PLEASE
RETRACT.
> > b. When such a challenge is issued, the poster so challenged must
provide
> > evidence of the truth of his statement within 5 days, or retract.
> > c. Repeated refusal to retract unproven statements is followed by
removal
> > from the Mailing list.
> > d. When the challenged statement is a negative, (such as "I have never
> > said...") and therefore not provable, the challenger must provide proof
> > that the statement is false or retract his challenge within 5 days.
> > e. Refusal to retract an unproven FALSE challenge in case of a negative
> > statement can also lead to removal from the Mailing list.
> >
> > 5. Mail posted to the list should be free of attachments.
> >
> > 6. At times of heavy list traffic, the moderator may impose daily
posting
> > limits for all.
> >
> > These rules are enforced at the discretion of an elected  Moderator and
> > will be in force until replaced with democratically agreed rules
> > via a vote.
> >
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> >
> >
> > -joop-
> >
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