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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee




Ron Sherwood wrote:

Good morning, Joanna:

You wrote:

By this statement, you just lost any credibility you may have had. Have

you

not seen Ross Rader's photos of Jeff Williams address in Texas? It's a
field.

I am sorry that my questioning of an unproven allegation by a clearly biased
individual, permits you to determine that I have lost all credibility.

The various contributors to this subject clearly agreed that two of the
criteria that may be used to confirm that someone (of any name) is who they
say they are, 1) a phone number to be called for confirmation and 2) an
address that a return receipt or registered mail may be addressed to.  When
Jeff Williams refused to open a PayPal account just to satisfy Sotiris
(which he has every right to do) Sotiris demanded that Jeff provide the
above two methods of confirmation.  Jeff Williams complied with both of
those demands, but the verifiers chose not to use them, presumably because
they do not want to verify Jeff Williams.

I never "demanded that Jeff provide the above two methods of confirmation", that is a falsehood. In any case, a post ofice box is NOT a fixed personal address. Anyone can have one in anyone's name. If jeff provides a valid digital certificate in his name, I won't have a problem verifying him. A PGP key is not proof of anything. Try again, Ron.




As for the photo, are you sure that is Jeff Williams address? If I want to
discredit Jeff Williams (or anyone else for that matter) and I set up a
website for no other purpose than to do that, and I take a picture of a
field and tell the world that this is Jeff Williams address... are you
prepared to use that as evidence that Jeff does not exist, rather than
picking up the phone to call him or sending him a letter?

It's much more than that. The picture itself is a satellite image of the address given by Jeff, you can check it out yourself anytime. I don't recall the url, but I believe ssomebody on the list would be happy to provide it.


Is your bias
showing through here Joanna?  Is it not your credibility that is now in
question? Why don't you call Jeff at the number on his sig file? Why don't
you send a registered return receipt letter to the address that he provides?


Once more, the address he provides is not a fixed personal address [period]. BUT, if Jeff is willing to pay for the registered letter (in advance), then I will be more than happy to use that method to verify him. Just to set your conscience at ease, if such a thing is possible.

--Sotiris Sotiropoulos





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