[atlarge-discuss] Re: Provisional Membership Committee

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jeff H., and all fellow members,

  The whole idea of verification is really not necessary except in
obvious and extreme situations.  We only have a very few
of those that I can actually think of.

 Thank you Jeff H., for you kind and wise words of support.

 The bigger problem that we really face is lack of growth
in membership.  We face IMHO a need for a broader
base of members.  Some countries such as China
have no reasonable method of verifying many potential
members for this fledgling organization.  Should we
than eliminate them because of a lack of a good
verification method?  IMHO that would be unwise
and far less than helpful in growing this membership.

Jeff Holt wrote:

> Panelists-elect and PMC members, INCLUDING (for the time being) Jeff
> Williams;
>
> Enough already....  SS is not the "Lord of Verification" any more than
> Ron Sherwood was the "Chair" or "Moderator" for the combined effort last
> weekend.  There is still considerable doubt as to Sebastian Klein in
> many of the minds working on the "Provisional" membership Committee, but
> that is moot for now.
>
> The Panel-elect has some serious considerations before it and needs to
> focus on creating an atmosphere of trust and solidarity, even with
> differences between individuals on some topics.  I completely agree with
> Joe and Joanna, time to remove the "Provisional", concentrate on
> structuring a set of Officers for the Organization to work toward in a
> formal election, and determine a verifiable means of holding an election
> for said Officers.
>
> Polling has its place, but at this time I do not see it as being the
> end-all for valid elections.  From reading the Motions before the panel
> now, it is clear that there is need for additional clarity in
> formulating the wording for Motions and simple goals stated in plain
> English, pardon the expression.
>
> Jeff Williams, if you would like to settle the matter of your identity
> once and for all, I can meet with you somewhere in the DFW area east of
> the Loop preferably since I will be driving up I-45 in all probability.
> If this cannot be arranged, I am afraid your identity will forever be a
> huge question in everyone's mind, including my own, since I am making it
> as convenient as possible.
>
> As for Claude, his reticence is difficult for me to understand as well,
> but has no bearing now or on the future unless he plans to run for
> Office at some time, in which case he will definitely be subject to full
> verification, as will ALL future candidates for ANY office.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jeff Holt
> Jefftttt@txucom.net
> www.tejas-info-services.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:09 PM
> To: Joey Borda **star*walker**
> Cc: Joop Teernstra; Kristen Doyle; Martha Gottlieb; Jeff Holt; Joanna
> Lane; A/S Mauro D. Rmos; Micheal Sherrill; Ron Sherwood; Sotiris
> Sotiropoulos; Abel Wisman; arebenti@web.de; dan@tobias.name;
> daniel@chirita.org; gilbert.lumantao@lycos.com;
> goldstein_david@yahoo.com.au; hblair@hotfootmail.com;
> ivonnemunoz@arachnis.net; mail@sebastianklein.de; atlarge discuss list
> Subject: Re: Provisional Membership Committee
>
> Joey and all fellow members,
>
>   Please take me off of your CC list in the future as according
> to Sotiris I do not actually exist or in his convoluted mind
> I am a not whom and what I say I am.  Hence I am NOT
> "Verified" in Lord Sotiris's court of jesters...

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard
===============================================================
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801



---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-unsubscribe@lists.fitug.de
For additional commands, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-help@lists.fitug.de