[atlarge-discuss] Re: Provisional Membership Committee

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Sebastian and all fellow members,

  Well Sebastian, I for one and not supprised that you are
very confused.  The amount of misinformation being
spread around on this forum is fairly significant.  Bottom
line is though, that there has really not been a legitimate
election.  The Jefsey-election was a farce and potentially
a fraud. The Jefsey-election has not been officially and
properly audited, it used a Domain name "EXECLUB.ORG"
that has yet to be approved by the members of ICANNATLARGE.ORG,
and the code Jefsey supposedly used has yet to be published.

  This is not to mention that even several of the Jefsey-election
false "Panel" members themselves have stated they know it
was a farce and a sham.

  Put it together and what do you have?

Sebastian Klein wrote:

> Hello, this is Sebastian Klein speaking maybe for the first time!
>
> Sorry but as I explained it to the [panel] mailing list today, I try to
> understand what is ongoing in my e-mail box during the last days. I
> found out that it seems to be subscribed to four lists plus the normal
> mailing list of "official" ICANN@LARGE mail (this is what I think - I am
> not sure because of the missing information!!!).
>
> A lot of things were confusing and I cannot say that I understand
> everything now but I try to get it as fast as I can.
>
> So I will be more than happy if anyone is able to explain what Jeff
> wrote about my person in his mail of June 12. I really do not think my
> english is the best and I am not sure I understand everything right!
> Did he thing I will make a fool of this list or what does he mean?
> Sorry, but if he does, I ask him if he can imagine why I am confused
> what is ongoing since my accaptance of nomination...? My answer: The
> ongoing election seems to be a important thing but I definetely do not
> feel that I became informed in a proper way to understand it clear.
>
> I hope anyone can explain it to me.. thank you very very much to him or
> her who will help me!
>
> And by the way another problem: To prevent a new chaos of hundred of
> e-mails in my private account, can anyone please change my adress to
> "panel@sebastianklein.de" in the list? I do not know who takes care
> about this list but it is very important for me to stay active!
>
> Sebastian Klein
>
> Jeff Holt schrieb:
>  > Provisional Membership Committee & Panelists-elect;
>  >
>  > The question of Jeffrey A. Williams being a real individual is now
>  > settled in the affirmative.  Today I have met and had lunch with Mr.
>  > Williams, viewed several legitimate documents including TDL, military
>  > id, court documents, and both utility and phone bill statements
>  > addressed to his Frisco P.O. Box.  I found Mr. Williams a pleasant
>  > conversationalist, well informed and almost as opinionated as myself.  I
>  > trust there will be no further libels regarding his person or mine.  As
>  > soon as the roll of film is developed, I will post a picture of us
>  > shaking hands on my Website and provide the appropriate URL for viewing;
>  > unfortunately I don't own a digital camera.  I will take the film to a
>  > one-hour processor on Monday, so enough already.
>  >
>  > Sincerely,
>  >
>  > Jeff Holt
>  > Jefftttt@txucom.net
>  > www.tejas-info-services.com
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Jeff Holt [mailto:jefftttt@txucom.net]
>  > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:41 AM
>  > To: 'Jeff Williams'; 'Joey Borda **star*walker**'
>  > Cc: 'Joop Teernstra'; 'Kristen Doyle'; 'Martha Gottlieb'; 'Joanna Lane';
>  > 'A/S Mauro D. Rmos'; 'Micheal Sherrill'; 'Ron Sherwood'; 'Sotiris
>  > Sotiropoulos'; 'Abel Wisman'; 'arebenti@web.de'; 'dan@tobias.name';
>  > 'daniel@chirita.org'; 'gilbert.lumantao@lycos.com';
>  > 'goldstein_david@yahoo.com.au'; 'hblair@hotfootmail.com';
>  > 'ivonnemunoz@arachnis.net'; 'mail@sebastianklein.de'; 'atlarge discuss
>  > list'
>  > Subject: RE: Provisional Membership Committee
>  >
>  > Panelists-elect and PMC members, INCLUDING (for the time being) Jeff
>  > Williams;
>  >
>  > Enough already....  SS is not the "Lord of Verification" any more than
>  > Ron Sherwood was the "Chair" or "Moderator" for the combined effort last
>  > weekend.  There is still considerable doubt as to Sebastian Klein in
>  > many of the minds working on the "Provisional" membership Committee, but
>  > that is moot for now.
>  >
>  > The Panel-elect has some serious considerations before it and needs to
>  > focus on creating an atmosphere of trust and solidarity, even with
>  > differences between individuals on some topics.  I completely agree with
>  > Joe and Joanna, time to remove the "Provisional", concentrate on
>  > structuring a set of Officers for the Organization to work toward in a
>  > formal election, and determine a verifiable means of holding an election
>  > for said Officers.
>  >
>  > Polling has its place, but at this time I do not see it as being the
>  > end-all for valid elections.  From reading the Motions before the panel
>  > now, it is clear that there is need for additional clarity in
>  > formulating the wording for Motions and simple goals stated in plain
>  > English, pardon the expression.
>  >
>  > Jeff Williams, if you would like to settle the matter of your identity
>  > once and for all, I can meet with you somewhere in the DFW area east of
>  > the Loop preferably since I will be driving up I-45 in all probability.
>  > If this cannot be arranged, I am afraid your identity will forever be a
>  > huge question in everyone's mind, including my own, since I am making it
>  > as convenient as possible.
>  >
>  > As for Claude, his reticence is difficult for me to understand as well,
>  > but has no bearing now or on the future unless he plans to run for
>  > Office at some time, in which case he will definitely be subject to full
>  > verification, as will ALL future candidates for ANY office.
>  >
>  > Sincerely,
>  >
>  > Jeff Holt
>  > Jefftttt@txucom.net
>  > www.tejas-info-services.com
>  >
>  >
>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
>  > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:09 PM
>  > To: Joey Borda **star*walker**
>  > Cc: Joop Teernstra; Kristen Doyle; Martha Gottlieb; Jeff Holt; Joanna
>  > Lane; A/S Mauro D. Rmos; Micheal Sherrill; Ron Sherwood; Sotiris
>  > Sotiropoulos; Abel Wisman; arebenti@web.de; dan@tobias.name;
>  > daniel@chirita.org; gilbert.lumantao@lycos.com;
>  > goldstein_david@yahoo.com.au; hblair@hotfootmail.com;
>  > ivonnemunoz@arachnis.net; mail@sebastianklein.de; atlarge discuss list
>  > Subject: Re: Provisional Membership Committee
>  >
>  > Joey and all fellow members,
>  >
>  >   Please take me off of your CC list in the future as according
>  > to Sotiris I do not actually exist or in his convoluted mind
>  > I am a not whom and what I say I am.  Hence I am NOT
>  > "Verified" in Lord Sotiris's court of jesters...
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >

Regards,

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