Re: [atlarge-discuss] Attn: The entity known as "Larry Fuss" - False claim?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Richard and all fellow members,

Richard Henderson wrote:

>   The reality behind the mailing list is this:
>
> We have enemies - and there is a policy to drown out this list with
> incoherent irrelevance.
>
> We have been infiltrated (well that was easy enough) and the strategy
> is to flood the list with controversies, banalities, and anything to
> stall forward movement. The aim is to bore and frustrate serious
> players out of this project - and obviously that's a practical
> strategy which can (arguably) work.

Richard, I think you know that such a strategy can only work if any
or each of the members allow for it to work.  You as a single
member know what you should and must do.  Do it!

>

>
>
> The name of the game is, as I see it, to just keep going.
>
> To identify key areas for substantive development. To set timescales.
> To target outcomes. To produce critical output. To create a powerful
> web presence.
>
> Above all, to meet face to face.

  Agreed here.  And as far as I know I am the only member that has
actually met with another member.

>
>
> Online, anyone can lie; anyone can pretend; and there's no touchstone.

  Yes there is.  And it has been demonstrated several times.

>
>
> Face to face, you start to deal with human beings as human beings.
> Jefsey has been making this point for ages.

  Yet Jefsey has refused to meet with other members for some time.
Why is that I wonder?

>
>
> In my opinion, a key to success is the start of face to face meetings
> in individual countries. I hope this will be possible in UK. And in
> France. And in US.

  Agreed.  Also internet video conferencing is possible as well.
I would be more than happy to set that up.

>
>
> At the point of face to face, all the irrelevant trivia can be swept
> aside in the human magnanimity of meeting, and clear face to face
> discussions on priorities.

  Agreed. But first we must get members like Sotiris to own up to
their agreements or in a face to face meeting members like Sotiris will
get
their faces smashed.

>
>
> Trolls flourish when all you have to go on is online identities.
>
> When the organisation develops enough to start face to face, then the
> *real* people and the *real* issues can be addressed.
>
> Friends, please remember, that whatever the garbage on this list,
> there is also an intelligent dialogue going on, an intelligent agenda,
> and a mission.
>
> Anyone coming to UK? Come and meet me! Come and meet Abel! Come and
> meet lots of us! Let's make a commitment to develop the face-to-face
> integrity of this organisation!

 Same is true for me in the US or Canada.  Come and meet me
and Jeff Holt.  I have invited Eric several times, but he was a
no-show.  I am also often in Malaysia, Singapore, China,
and Brazil.  But timing may be critical there...

>
>
> Yrs,
>
> Richard Henderson
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Albert Brickel
>   To: Richard Henderson ; Jeff Williams ; fussman2003@yahoo.com ;
> atlarge discuss list
>   Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:16 PM
>   Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Attn: The entity known as "Larry
> Fuss" - False claim?
>
>
>   Kinda like the fantasy of Jeff Holt having lunch with Jeff Williams
> huh?  As 2 separate bodies I mean.
>
>   Richard Henderson <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>     Oh dear
>
>     Fantasy and hysteria running amok
>
>     ...reminds me of a kid I knew who claimed he worked for the
> British SAS...
>     the very fact he said he did, proved he didn't!
>
>     yrs,
>
>     Richard H
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Albert Brickel
>     To: Jeff Williams ; ; atlarge
>     discuss list
>     Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 7:57 PM
>     Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Attn: The entity known as "Larry
> Fuss" -
>     False claim?
>
>
>     > Dear Jeff HoltWilliams,
>     >
>     > If you don't know what "The Company" is you don't need to know.
> If you
>     call Applebees tomorrow WE will record your conversation and
> videotape. We
>     have been following you and your multiple personalities for years.
>
>
>
>

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard
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