Re: [atlarge-discuss] FW: Your message to Atlarge-info awaits moderator approval

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joanna and all fellow members,

  For the most part in your by the numbers reply below, you
are quite correct.  I would only disagree on one point.  That
being that the actual spamer is Jefsey himself as he as just
admitted today.

BTW I have reported him to his service provider as a matter
more for documentation in that "club-internet.fr" is not
known as being very responsive.  Small wonder why eh?!

Joanna Lane wrote:

> JFC has invaded my letterbox with Spam using data that he obtained from
> ICANNATLarge.com and .org, in such a way that neither I, not the current
> Panel, can stop him unless he cooperates voluntarily. In addition, any
> attempt on my part to contact fellow victims to discuss ways in which we can
> collectively come together as a force to stop the offending Spam is at the
> sole discretion of the same JFC, being owner of the unauthorized spamming
> list. What is wrong with this picture?
>
> IANAL, but the way I see it right now is this:-
>
> 1) The victims' personal contact details were passed to a spammer, who then
> disclosed the data on a list in the form of spam, which thousands of people
> read.
>
> 2) The spammer is now collecting further data from replies to the list, thus
> enabling a new database to be created, which can be sold or bartered, again
> without the knowledge or consent of the victims whose data comprises the
> list.
>
> 3) The victims have no mechanism to resign membership of the organization(s)
> which may have betrayed their trust in this way. Requests to unsubscribe
> from the spam mail list have been met with silence.
>
> 2) Since most of the victims were unaware that the JFC spamming action had
> not been authorized by the Panel, the reputation and name of the
> organization, ICANNATLarge.com & .org, has been damaged by the incident,
> misleading members into thinking that another, privately owned and operated
> initiative with a confusingly similar name, was in fact, the ICANNATLarge
> organization into which they had originally enrolled.
>
> 3) Since most of the victims were unaware that such action had not been
> authorized by the Panel, a significant number have left in disgust as a
> result of spam, which they perceive as organization incompetence, amongst
> other things.
>
> 4) This in turn has reduced participation levels, so there are now fewer
> prospective member contributions and lower organization revenue can be
> expected until numbers are built back up again, which could take some time
> to engender the trust, if ever.
>
> 5) This is a critical time in the organizations history to be losing any
> prospective revenue sources, especially with the ALAC pressing for
> disclosure of funding sources from At large organizations with whom it is
> looking to deal in the immediate future.
>
> 6) JFC, a citizen of the EU where there are laws that prohibit third party
> disclose of personally identifiable information, is using a membership
> database that he acquired under questionable circumstances from ICANNAtLarge
> for one purpose, namely the election, and applying it to another purpose,
> which may include building a completely separate organization comprising
> members who have never consented to be enrolled.
>
> 7) There is no mechanism by which the victim may cancel membership of any of
> these so called organizations, or force the perpetrator to stop, save by law
> enforcement, which on the face of it may include:-
>
> 1) Reporting JFC to his ISP for Spam offense
>
> and/ or/
>
> 2) File a lawsuit against those running ICANNATLarge.com/.org (Panelists)
> for the unlawful disclosure of personally identifiable contact information
> of EU members thru a spam mailing list.
>
> Joanna
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Atlarge-info-admin@atlarge.ws
> > [mailto:Atlarge-info-admin@atlarge.ws]
> > Sent: 16 June 2003 18:24
> > To: jo-uk@rcn.com
> > Subject: Your message to Atlarge-info awaits moderator approval
> >
> >
> > Your mail to 'Atlarge-info' with the subject
> >
> >     At Large Spam
> >
> > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
> >
> > The reason it is being held:
> >
> >     Post to moderated list
> >
> > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
> > notification of the moderator's decision.
>
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard
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