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RE: [atlarge-discuss] A Fully Active Panel...
Dear All,
I have listened this too many times: "the panel is not legitimate."
If it is this way and if this that we denominate Panel is only a "group of
members managing the organization", what does it impede to other 100 or 1000
members to be added to this group of people to contribute and to manage the
organization?. How they say here, there would be more caciques than Indians.
I believe that everything has a beginning point, in the case of @Large has
already attempted it other times and it always finishes on the dot zero,
reason why this it is a new beginning point and we should assume this way
it. The first election in the French Republic was not perfect, the democracy
of the Greeks was but restricted that a police sation, the Swiss
organization of its so particular democracy was rejected in the beginning.
Gentlemen, if we continue saying that this panel is illegitimate, please,
let us make silence, let us suspend the whole activity and let us begin to
work to organize a new "legitimate" election, but to continue in these gray
areas only harms to @Large, internally and toward out since are in front of
the eyes of many external people and many other organizations.
greetings,
Mauro. -
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[ES] He escuchado esto demasiadas veces: "el panel no es legítimo".
Si es así y si esto que denominamos Panel es sólo un "grupo de miembros
manejando la organización", ¿qué impide a otros 100 o 1000 miembros sumarse
a este grupo de personas a contribuir y manejar la organización?. Cómo dicen
aquí, habría más caciques que indios.
Creo que todo tiene un punto de inicio, en el caso de @Large ya lo ha
intentado otras veces y termina siempre en punto cero, por lo cual este es
un nuevo punto de inicio y debemos asumirlo así. La primera elección en la
República Francesa no fue perfecta, la democracia de los Griegos era mas
restringida que una comisaría, la organización suiza de su tan particular
democracia fue rechazada en el inicio.
Caballeros, si continuamos diciendo que este panel es ilegítimo, por favor,
hagamos silencio, suspendamos toda la actividad y comencemos a trabajar para
organizar una nueva elección "legítima", pero continuar en estas zonas
grises sólo hace daño a @Large, internamente y hacia afuera ya que estamos
frente a los ojos de muchas personas externas y muchas otras organizaciones.
saludos,
Mauro.-
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
Enviado el: Martes, 08 de Julio de 2003 06:09 a.m.
Para: Walter Schmidt
CC: Atlarge Discuss List
Asunto: Re: [atlarge-discuss] A Fully Active Panel...
Walter and all fellow members,
There are no legitimate Panel members. We are seeing a repeat
of the previous panel nonsense.
This is a membership driven organization. Hence
any policy must be approved by the members vote.
There is not now, nor has there ever been a need for
any member here to "Volunteer" as "Unpaid" for
any actual "Work" of this fledgling organization.
So complaining in defense of any member here
of not being paid is a ruse and should be treated
as such.
Walter Schmidt wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, it was written:
>
> > We deserve and need a fully active panel representing our group.
>
> ...and that's what we have - especially when we remember they are all
> unpaid volunteers!
>
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