Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication

["Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>]

Bill Burr says that he did not send the message to Jeff Williams, which Jeff
posted a copy of to us on our list.

Jeff, either he did or he did not.

I'm sorry but I really want cast iron assurances that the mail you published
was truthfully an e-mail sent to you in that form from Bill Burr.

If it was not, I can't accept that. I'm not even willing to continue
involvement with this mailing list if my time is going to be wasted with
people using up my time and my private life with made-up falsehoods.

This list has been overwhelmed by all kinds of aimless squabbles about Jeff
and his identity and his org and his posts - as far as I'm concerned, this
issue of the Bill Burr e-mail is a test case. If Jeff can confirm that he
received this specific e-mail, and simply passed it on, then that would be
helpful. If Jeff cannot confirm that, then what's going on, and what is the
panel going to do about it? Because I'm out of here if you're just going to
preside over fabrication and make-believe...

I just want us to be able to get on with substantive matters, without crap
and nonsense. Life is too short. I've three kids to bring up. I want serious
correspondence, and most of all I don't want mindless deception. If I commit
a lie or deceive my employers at work, I expect to be fired. Similar
standards should apply to an organisation like ours if we seek credibility.

Jeff: this matter is a test of your integrity, and of your right to remain a
member of this organisation, so please can you assure us:

Was the mail which you published, on our list, truthfully an e-mail sent to
you *in that form* from Bill Burr?


yrs sincerely,

Richard Henderson

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Sherwood <sherwood@islands.vi>
To: IAL <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:18 PM
Subject: Fw: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Burr" <william.burr@nist.gov>
> To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: <sherwood@islands.vi>; "Albert Brickel" <nonukesnokooks@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
>
>
> > Jeff,
> >
> > I'm sorry I really don't understand what is going on here and don't know
> > what "I've forgotten in my busy schedule."  I am on the ISC list but
> > frankly filter those messages and look at them once in a blue moon, of
it
> > something specific comes up.
> >
> > What I'm saying is that I don't believe that I ever wrote or sent you or
> > anyone else the following text:
> >
> > |> Jeff,
> > |>
> > |>   Thank you and your members of your organization for aiding in the
> > |> development and furtherance of the developing standard required by
> > |> the presidents directive of September 2000 for Authentication and
> > |> Verification standards.  You may also wish to, and it would be
> > |> advised for you to forward the most important element along to the
> > |> At-large organization you are involved with and attempting to
> > |> shepherd.
> > |>
> > |> Kindly,
> > |> B.  Burr NIST
> > |> Manager, Security Technology Group
> >
> > I don't think I have a dog in this fight, whatever it is, but I am Bill
> > Burr, the manager of the NIST security Technology Group and I did not
> write
> > this, it makes no sense to me, it's not my style at all, and  I simply
do
> > not close anything with "Kindly".
> >
> > I can confirm that did send the July 11 message Subject:
E-Authentication
> > Policy Guidance, which you reference to my pki-twg group.
> >
> > Bill Burr
> >



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