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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Burr" <william.burr@nist.gov>
To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: <sherwood@islands.vi>; "Albert Brickel" <nonukesnokooks@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication


> Jeff,
>
> I'm sorry I really don't understand what is going on here and don't know
> what "I've forgotten in my busy schedule."  I am on the ISC list but
> frankly filter those messages and look at them once in a blue moon, of it
> something specific comes up.
>
> What I'm saying is that I don't believe that I ever wrote or sent you or
> anyone else the following text:
>
> |> Jeff,
> |>
> |>   Thank you and your members of your organization for aiding in the
> |> development and furtherance of the developing standard required by
> |> the presidents directive of September 2000 for Authentication and
> |> Verification standards.  You may also wish to, and it would be
> |> advised for you to forward the most important element along to the
> |> At-large organization you are involved with and attempting to
> |> shepherd.
> |>
> |> Kindly,
> |> B.  Burr NIST
> |> Manager, Security Technology Group
>
> I don't think I have a dog in this fight, whatever it is, but I am Bill
> Burr, the manager of the NIST security Technology Group and I did not
write
> this, it makes no sense to me, it's not my style at all, and  I simply do
> not close anything with "Kindly".
>
> I can confirm that did send the July 11 message Subject: E-Authentication
> Policy Guidance, which you reference to my pki-twg group.
>
> Bill Burr
>
>
> At 10:47 PM 7/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >Ron, Bill and all fellow members,
> >
> >   The letter I sent to this list was sent to me only a few days ago
> >via the ABA list discussing these issues as seperate response
> >from ST-ISC@MAIL.ABANET.ORG of which was forwarded
> >by one of the list members. as follows:
> >(So perhaps Bill has forgotten in his busy schedual   I left out
> >his Email address in my original post in order to protect his
> >privacy as well hoping to keep him from being embarassed.
> >I see that was perhaps not possible due to Ron's insistance in being
> >obtuse...)
> >
> >=========  Copy of post is as follows =================
> >
> >Subject:  FW: E-Authentication Policy Guidance
> >    Date:  Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:48:08 -0500
> >    From: xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@WELLSFARGO.COM> -( privacy protected for
> >      To: ST-ISC@MAIL.ABANET.ORG                     copying purposes)
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Bill Burr [mailto:william.burr@nist.gov]
> >Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:55 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list
> >Subject: E-Authentication Policy Guidance
> >
> >
> >Folks,
> >
> >What I've been calling the OMB e-Authentiction policy guidance has
> >been
> >published in the Federal Register
> >
> >
> >
>
>http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.go
v
> >
> >/2003/pdf/03-17634.pdf
> >
> >or
> >
> >
>
>http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.go
v
> >
> >/2003/03-17634.htm
> >
> >It's not too long so I'll attach the PDF here
> >
> >
> >William E. Burr
> >NIST
> >Manager, Security Technology Group
> >301-975-2914
> >william.burr@nist.gov
> >
> >
> >     FedReg03-17634.pdf
> >
> >                           Name:
> >                                 FedReg03-17634.pdf
> >                            Type:
> >                                 Portable Document Format
> >(application/pdf)
> >                        Encoding:
> >                                 base64
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Ron Sherwood wrote:
> >
> > >    All @Large members:
> > >
> > >     I am sure a number of you felt that the message forwarded to the
> > > discuss list by Jeff Williams, and which he claimed was written by
> > > Bill Burr, was couched in the same grammatically deficient terms as
> > > Jeff's own messages.
> > >
> > >     I was concerned enough that this was a fake letter, that I emailed
> > > Bill Burr and asked him to authenticate it.
> > >
> > >     This reply from Bill Burr is self explanatory.
> > >
> > > Ron Sherwood
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Bill Burr
> > > To: Ron Sherwood
> > > Cc: edward.roback@nist.gov
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:47 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Athentication
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr. Sherwood,
> > >
> > > I have no idea where what you forwarded came from.  But not from me.
> > > It's the first time I've ever seen it.  I've never signed anything
> > > "kindly" in my life.  I don't understand the context at all.
> > >
> > > Bill Burr
> > >
> > >
> > > At 08:40 AM 7/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > >
> > >   Dear Mr. Burr:
> > >
> > >   I am a member of the newly organized ICANN@Large group.  We are
> > > attempting to organize a grass-roots membership of internet users
> > > according to the mandate presented to ICANN by the DoC.
> > >
> > >   There is some doubt among our membership concerning the following
> > > excerpt from a message delivered by one Jeff Williams and which is
> > > attributed to you.
> > >
> > >   Please will you verify (or otherwise) that you did, indeed, author
> > > this message to Jeff Williams.
> > >
> > >   Many thanks in advance for taking the time to respond this request.
> > >
> > >   Yours sincerely, Ron Sherwood
> > >
> > >
> > >   ------------------copy of message------------
> > >
> > >   |> All fellow members and VR committee members,
> > >   |>
> > >   |>   The following is a email received via the DOC's NIST:
> > >   |>
> > >   |> ============== Copy of contents in part follows=========
> > >   |> Jeff,
> > >   |>
> > >   |>   Thank you and your members of your organization for aiding in
> > > the
> > >   |> development and furtherance of the developing standard required
> > > by
> > >   |> the presidents directive of September 2000 for Authentication and
> > >
> > >   |> Verification standards.  You may also wish to, and it would be
> > >   |> advised for you to forward the most important element along to
> > > the
> > >   |> At-large organization you are involved with and attempting to
> > >   |> shepherd.
> > >   |>
> > >   |> Kindly,
> > >   |> B.  Burr NIST
> > >   |> Manager, Security Technology Group
> > >   |>
> > >   |> ===========  End of copy ==============
> > > William E. Burr
> > > NIST
> > > Manager, Security Technology Group
> > > 301-975-2914
> > > william.burr@nist.gov
> > >
> > >
> >
> >--
> >Jeffrey A. Williams
> >Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
> >"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
> >     Pierre Abelard
> >===============================================================
> >CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> >Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> >E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> >Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801
>
> William E. Burr
> NIST
> Manager, Security Technology Group
> 301-975-2914
> william.burr@nist.gov
>


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