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RE: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
Ron,
Considering he weight nad possible consequences of this, would you be so
kind as to send the FULL headers of the email to the list ?
Kind regards
Abel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Sherwood [mailto:sherwood@islands.vi]
> Sent: 16 July 2003 23:19
> To: IAL
> Subject: Fw: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Burr" <william.burr@nist.gov>
> To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: <sherwood@islands.vi>; "Albert Brickel" <nonukesnokooks@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
>
>
> > Jeff,
> >
> > I'm sorry I really don't understand what is going on here and don't
> > know what "I've forgotten in my busy schedule." I am on
> the ISC list
> > but frankly filter those messages and look at them once in a blue
> > moon, of it something specific comes up.
> >
> > What I'm saying is that I don't believe that I ever wrote
> or sent you
> > or anyone else the following text:
> >
> > |> Jeff,
> > |>
> > |> Thank you and your members of your organization for
> aiding in the
> > |> development and furtherance of the developing standard
> required by
> > |> the presidents directive of September 2000 for
> Authentication and
> > |> Verification standards. You may also wish to, and it would be
> > |> advised for you to forward the most important element
> along to the
> > |> At-large organization you are involved with and attempting to
> > |> shepherd.
> > |>
> > |> Kindly,
> > |> B. Burr NIST
> > |> Manager, Security Technology Group
> >
> > I don't think I have a dog in this fight, whatever it is, but I am
> > Bill Burr, the manager of the NIST security Technology
> Group and I did
> > not
> write
> > this, it makes no sense to me, it's not my style at all,
> and I simply
> > do not close anything with "Kindly".
> >
> > I can confirm that did send the July 11 message Subject:
> > E-Authentication Policy Guidance, which you reference to my pki-twg
> > group.
> >
> > Bill Burr
> >
> >
> > At 10:47 PM 7/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Ron, Bill and all fellow members,
> > >
> > > The letter I sent to this list was sent to me only a
> few days ago
> > >via the ABA list discussing these issues as seperate response from
> > >ST-ISC@MAIL.ABANET.ORG of which was forwarded by one of the list
> > >members. as follows:
> > >(So perhaps Bill has forgotten in his busy schedual I left out
> > >his Email address in my original post in order to protect
> his privacy
> > >as well hoping to keep him from being embarassed. I see that was
> > >perhaps not possible due to Ron's insistance in being
> > >obtuse...)
> > >
> > >========= Copy of post is as follows =================
> > >
> > >Subject: FW: E-Authentication Policy Guidance
> > > Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:48:08 -0500
> > > From: xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@WELLSFARGO.COM> -( privacy protected for
> > > To: ST-ISC@MAIL.ABANET.ORG
> copying purposes)
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Bill Burr [mailto:william.burr@nist.gov]
> > >Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:55 AM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list
> > >Subject: E-Authentication Policy Guidance
> > >
> > >
> > >Folks,
> > >
> > >What I've been calling the OMB e-Authentiction policy guidance has
> > >been published in the Federal Register
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket
> .access.gp
> >o.go
> v
> > >
> > >/2003/pdf/03-17634.pdf
> > >
> > >or
> > >
> > >
> >
> >http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket
> .access.gp
> >o.go
> v
> > >
> > >/2003/03-17634.htm
> > >
> > >It's not too long so I'll attach the PDF here
> > >
> > >
> > >William E. Burr
> > >NIST
> > >Manager, Security Technology Group
> > >301-975-2914
> > >william.burr@nist.gov
> > >
> > >
> > > FedReg03-17634.pdf
> > >
> > > Name:
> > > FedReg03-17634.pdf
> > > Type:
> > > Portable Document Format
> > >(application/pdf)
> > > Encoding:
> > > base64
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Ron Sherwood wrote:
> > >
> > > > All @Large members:
> > > >
> > > > I am sure a number of you felt that the message
> forwarded to
> > > > the discuss list by Jeff Williams, and which he claimed was
> > > > written by Bill Burr, was couched in the same grammatically
> > > > deficient terms as Jeff's own messages.
> > > >
> > > > I was concerned enough that this was a fake letter, that I
> > > > emailed Bill Burr and asked him to authenticate it.
> > > >
> > > > This reply from Bill Burr is self explanatory.
> > > >
> > > > Ron Sherwood
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Bill Burr
> > > > To: Ron Sherwood
> > > > Cc: edward.roback@nist.gov
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:47 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: Athentication
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Sherwood,
> > > >
> > > > I have no idea where what you forwarded came from. But
> not from
> > > > me. It's the first time I've ever seen it. I've never signed
> > > > anything "kindly" in my life. I don't understand the
> context at
> > > > all.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Burr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 08:40 AM 7/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Burr:
> > > >
> > > > I am a member of the newly organized ICANN@Large
> group. We are
> > > > attempting to organize a grass-roots membership of
> internet users
> > > > according to the mandate presented to ICANN by the DoC.
> > > >
> > > > There is some doubt among our membership concerning the
> > > > following excerpt from a message delivered by one Jeff Williams
> > > > and which is attributed to you.
> > > >
> > > > Please will you verify (or otherwise) that you did, indeed,
> > > > author this message to Jeff Williams.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks in advance for taking the time to respond this
> > > > request.
> > > >
> > > > Yours sincerely, Ron Sherwood
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------copy of message------------
> > > >
> > > > |> All fellow members and VR committee members,
> > > > |>
> > > > |> The following is a email received via the DOC's NIST:
> > > > |>
> > > > |> ============== Copy of contents in part follows=========
> > > > |> Jeff,
> > > > |>
> > > > |> Thank you and your members of your organization
> for aiding in
> > > > the
> > > > |> development and furtherance of the developing standard
> > > > required by
> > > > |> the presidents directive of September 2000 for
> Authentication
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > |> Verification standards. You may also wish to, and
> it would be
> > > > |> advised for you to forward the most important
> element along
> > > > to the
> > > > |> At-large organization you are involved with and
> attempting to
> > > > |> shepherd.
> > > > |>
> > > > |> Kindly,
> > > > |> B. Burr NIST
> > > > |> Manager, Security Technology Group
> > > > |>
> > > > |> =========== End of copy ==============
> > > > William E. Burr
> > > > NIST
> > > > Manager, Security Technology Group
> > > > 301-975-2914
> > > > william.burr@nist.gov
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Jeffrey A. Williams
> > >Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders
> > >strong!) "Be precise in the use of words and expect
> precision from others" -
> > > Pierre Abelard
> > >===============================================================
> > >CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > >Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail
> > >jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801
> >
> > William E. Burr
> > NIST
> > Manager, Security Technology Group
> > 301-975-2914
> > william.burr@nist.gov
> >
>
>
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