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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
Methinks it's time to boot Mr. Jeff Williams once and for all. This is
appalling.
Sotiris Sotiropoulos
Abel Wisman wrote:
Ron,
Considering he weight nad possible consequences of this, would you be so
kind as to send the FULL headers of the email to the list ?
Kind regards
Abel
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Sherwood [mailto:sherwood@islands.vi]
Sent: 16 July 2003 23:19
To: IAL
Subject: Fw: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Burr" <william.burr@nist.gov>
To: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
Cc: <sherwood@islands.vi>; "Albert Brickel" <nonukesnokooks@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
Jeff,
I'm sorry I really don't understand what is going on here and don't
know what "I've forgotten in my busy schedule." I am on
the ISC list
but frankly filter those messages and look at them once in a blue
moon, of it something specific comes up.
What I'm saying is that I don't believe that I ever wrote
or sent you
or anyone else the following text:
|> Jeff,
|>
|> Thank you and your members of your organization for
aiding in the
|> development and furtherance of the developing standard
required by
|> the presidents directive of September 2000 for
Authentication and
|> Verification standards. You may also wish to, and it would be
|> advised for you to forward the most important element
along to the
|> At-large organization you are involved with and attempting to
|> shepherd.
|>
|> Kindly,
|> B. Burr NIST
|> Manager, Security Technology Group
I don't think I have a dog in this fight, whatever it is, but I am
Bill Burr, the manager of the NIST security Technology
Group and I did
not
write
this, it makes no sense to me, it's not my style at all,
and I simply
do not close anything with "Kindly".
I can confirm that did send the July 11 message Subject:
E-Authentication Policy Guidance, which you reference to my pki-twg
group.
Bill Burr
At 10:47 PM 7/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Ron, Bill and all fellow members,
The letter I sent to this list was sent to me only a
few days ago
via the ABA list discussing these issues as seperate response from
ST-ISC@MAIL.ABANET.ORG of which was forwarded by one of the list
members. as follows:
(So perhaps Bill has forgotten in his busy schedual I left out
his Email address in my original post in order to protect
his privacy
as well hoping to keep him from being embarassed. I see that was
perhaps not possible due to Ron's insistance in being
obtuse...)
========= Copy of post is as follows =================
Subject: FW: E-Authentication Policy Guidance
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:48:08 -0500
From: xxxxxxxx.xxxxx@WELLSFARGO.COM> -( privacy protected for
To: ST-ISC@MAIL.ABANET.ORG
copying purposes)
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Burr [mailto:william.burr@nist.gov]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: E-Authentication Policy Guidance
Folks,
What I've been calling the OMB e-Authentiction policy guidance has
been published in the Federal Register
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket
.access.gp
o.go
v
/2003/pdf/03-17634.pdf
or
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket
.access.gp
o.go
v
/2003/03-17634.htm
It's not too long so I'll attach the PDF here
William E. Burr
NIST
Manager, Security Technology Group
301-975-2914
william.burr@nist.gov
FedReg03-17634.pdf
Name:
FedReg03-17634.pdf
Type:
Portable Document Format
(application/pdf)
Encoding:
base64
Ron Sherwood wrote:
All @Large members:
I am sure a number of you felt that the message
forwarded to
the discuss list by Jeff Williams, and which he claimed was
written by Bill Burr, was couched in the same grammatically
deficient terms as Jeff's own messages.
I was concerned enough that this was a fake letter, that I
emailed Bill Burr and asked him to authenticate it.
This reply from Bill Burr is self explanatory.
Ron Sherwood
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Burr
To: Ron Sherwood
Cc: edward.roback@nist.gov
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Athentication
Mr. Sherwood,
I have no idea where what you forwarded came from. But
not from
me. It's the first time I've ever seen it. I've never signed
anything "kindly" in my life. I don't understand the
context at
all.
Bill Burr
At 08:40 AM 7/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
Dear Mr. Burr:
I am a member of the newly organized ICANN@Large
group. We are
attempting to organize a grass-roots membership of
internet users
according to the mandate presented to ICANN by the DoC.
There is some doubt among our membership concerning the
following excerpt from a message delivered by one Jeff Williams
and which is attributed to you.
Please will you verify (or otherwise) that you did, indeed,
author this message to Jeff Williams.
Many thanks in advance for taking the time to respond this
request.
Yours sincerely, Ron Sherwood
------------------copy of message------------
|> All fellow members and VR committee members,
|>
|> The following is a email received via the DOC's NIST:
|>
|> ============== Copy of contents in part follows=========
|> Jeff,
|>
|> Thank you and your members of your organization
for aiding in
the
|> development and furtherance of the developing standard
required by
|> the presidents directive of September 2000 for
Authentication
and
|> Verification standards. You may also wish to, and
it would be
|> advised for you to forward the most important
element along
to the
|> At-large organization you are involved with and
attempting to
|> shepherd.
|>
|> Kindly,
|> B. Burr NIST
|> Manager, Security Technology Group
|>
|> =========== End of copy ==============
William E. Burr
NIST
Manager, Security Technology Group
301-975-2914
william.burr@nist.gov
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders
strong!) "Be precise in the use of words and expect
precision from others" -
Pierre Abelard
===============================================================
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail
jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801
William E. Burr
NIST
Manager, Security Technology Group
301-975-2914
william.burr@nist.gov
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