Re: [atlarge-discuss] Another lawsuit against ICANN, to stop WLS

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Richard and all fellow members,

  I will again try to converse on this subject and hopefully neither,
Sotiris, Abel, the likely fictitious Albert Brickel, Dessa AKA Darryl,
or Ron will yet again decide to be obtuse in a response to my remarks
and/or comments to you well put comments/remarks below.



Richard Henderson wrote:

> Hi Danny
>
> I take a slightly different angle on this.
>
> What I would call into question is the actual process of decision-making
> inside ICANN.

  Yes, and as you know those processes, ever changing and morphing
as they have been over the past 5 years has not well served the
stakeholder/user community, if served them at all.

>
>
> Having watched ICANN like the rest of us for some time now, I am highly
> sceptical about the motives behind their decision-making and the vested
> interests who may or may not be pulling strings behind the scenes; I am
> disappointed about the lack of transparency when it comes to showing
> Boardroom decision-making; and I am appalled by the lack of responsiveness,
> when people try to ask searching questions about their policies or
> decisions.

  Indeed this is a broadly shared opinion that somehow has either
escaped the DOC/NTIA or is being spun around behind the
scenes by ICANN BoD and Staff members in conjunction with
their dubiously "Accredited" Registries and Registrars for purposes
of very questionable intent with the stakeholder/users whom do not
have a voice and/or a vote in such policies and are therefore
left with seeking a legal court proceeding by which to gain fair
and unbiased treatment.  This to me and our INEGroup members
is unsatisfactory and anti-consumer practice on the part of ICANN.


>
>
> In short, there is little evidence of consensus policy making.

  There is, and has been none in all of the 5+ years I and our
members have been involved.  So you Richard are being too kind...

>
>
> And I think it could be fairly argued that the decision to proceed with WLS
> demonstrates the autocratic nature of the Board and the abandonment of
> consensus.

  Very much true but consensus or at least measured consensus
has never existed or been practiced within ICANN...

>
>
> Since the DNS is held "in stewardship" by ICANN on behalf of the worldwide
> community, it behoves them to take much more account of points of view
> beyond their own Boardroom and to justify their decision-making / policies
> in lively dialogue and interaction.

  All DNS, protocol and Ip addressing decisions should have the
voted approval of those effected and willing to participate as they
are public rescues.

>
>
> It is this aspect of the WLS decision which concerns me.
>
> I think the ICANN Board is self-perpetuating, working behind the scenes for
> various interested parties, and will do whatever it likes, and hope to evade
> challenge. There seems to be no accountability at all, except to DoC who
> support them whatever because it suits US policy so to do.

  Yes the US Congress has made many of the same type of statements
in regards of lack of accountability to the stakeholders/users on a number
of occasions in various senate and House committee's without address
by the ICANN BoD or staff in any tangible way.

>
>
> Who, apart from ICANN and Verisign, actually wanted WLS in its present form?

  Snapnames is one.

>
>
> yrs ever,
>
> Richard Henderson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> To: <abel@able-towers.com>; <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Another lawsuit against ICANN, to stop WLS
>
> > Abel,
> >
> > I am willing to be educated.  Please explain to me and the rest of us why
> the
> > implementation of a Wait List Service is an issue of concern to the
> average
> > Internet user.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Danny
> >
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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