Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication

[Albert Brickel <nonukesnokooks@yahoo.com>]

Nope you didn't explain.  You posted a denial by Bill Burr that he doesn't know you and that he never wrote you that memo.
 
Bill Burr wrote: "but I am Bill Burr, the manager of the NIST security Technology Group and I did not write this, it makes no sense to me, it's not my style at all, and I simply do not close anything with "Kindly".
 
Kinda plain and simple ain't it.  Your'e a liar and got caught.


Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Richard and all fellow members,

I just again posted twice that he did. I explained compleately.


Richard Henderson wrote:

> Bill Burr says that he did not send the message to Jeff Williams, which Jeff
> posted a copy of to us on our list.
>
> Jeff, either he did or he did not.
>
> I'm sorry but I really want cast iron assurances that the mail you published
> was truthfully an e-mail sent to you in that form from Bill Burr.
>
> If it was not, I can't accept that. I'm not even willing to continue
> involvement with this mailing list if my time is going to be wasted with
> people using up my time and my private life with made-up falsehoods.
>
> This list has been overwhelmed by all kinds of aimless squabbles about Jeff
> and his identity and his org and his posts - as far as I'm concerned, this
> issue of the Bill Burr e-mail is a test case. If Jeff can confirm that he
> received this specific e-mail, and simply passed it on, then that would be
> helpful. If Jeff cannot confirm that, then what's going on, and what is the
> panel going to do about it? Because I'm out of here if you're just going to
> preside over fabrication and make-believe...
>
> I just want us to be able to get on with substantive matters, without crap
> and nonsense. Life is too short. I've three kids to bring up. I want serious
> correspondence, and most of all I don't want mindless deception. If I commit
> a lie or deceive my employers at work, I expect to be fired. Similar
> standards should apply to an organisation like ours if we seek credibility.
>
> Jeff: this matter is a test of your integrity, and of your right to remain a
> member of this organisation, so please can you assure us:
>
> Was the mail which you published, on our list, truthfully an e-mail sent to
> you *in that form* from Bill Burr?
>
> yrs sincerely,
>
> Richard Henderson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Sherwood 
> To: IAL 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:18 PM
> Subject: Fw: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Burr" 
> > To: "Jeff Williams" 
> > Cc: ; "Albert Brickel" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Fw: Athentication
> >
> >
> > > Jeff,
> > >
> > > I'm sorry I really don't understand what is going on here and don't know
> > > what "I've forgotten in my busy schedule." I am on the ISC list but
> > > frankly filter those messages and look at them once in a blue moon, of
> it
> > > something specific comes up.
> > >
> > > What I'm saying is that I don't believe that I ever wrote or sent you or
> > > anyone else the following text:
> > >
> > > |> Jeff,
> > > |>
> > > |> Thank you and your members of your organization for aiding in the
> > > |> development and furtherance of the developing standard required by
> > > |> the presidents directive of September 2000 for Authentication and
> > > |> Verification standards. You may also wish to, and it would be
> > > |> advised for you to forward the most important element along to the
> > > |> At-large organization you are involved with and attempting to
> > > |> shepherd.
> > > |>
> > > |> Kindly,
> > > |> B. Burr NIST
> > > |> Manager, Security Technology Group
> > >
> > > I don't think I have a dog in this fight, whatever it is, but I am Bill
> > > Burr, the manager of the NIST security Technology Group and I did not
> > write
> > > this, it makes no sense to me, it's not my style at all, and I simply
> do
> > > not close anything with "Kindly".
> > >
> > > I can confirm that did send the July 11 message Subject:
> E-Authentication
> > > Policy Guidance, which you reference to my pki-twg group.
> > >
> > > Bill Burr
> > >
>
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