Re: [atlarge-discuss] RE : [atlarge-discuss] Forum Usage at dot-org

["Daniel R. Tobias" <dan@tobias.name>]

On 16 Jul 2003 at 19:15, Jeff Williams wrote:

> 1.) Take what a USER sees when displaying in his/her
> browser from a php screen and use your idea of
> an automated translator http://babel.altavista.com/
> (Which BTW is a poor one) and try translating the
> data from or in that php URL
> 
> 2.) Than take or use any HTTP URL data displayed
> using your idea of an automated translator http://babel.altavista.com/
> (Which BTW is a poor one) and try translating the data from or in that
> HTTP data and see for yourself which is easier or has a better result.

You'll get the exact same thing... the PHP-generated Web page (which 
in fact *is* served from an HTTP URL; the fact that you imply that 
PHP and HTTP are mutually exclusive things is most bizarre) would be 
fed into the translator (which I don't deny is poor; my next 
paragraph in fact said that all automated translators are poor) and 
would result in the same output if the text content is the same.

>   If  you like I will post an actual example of this
> test for you?

That would be useful, since I haven't a clue what you mean.

>   It is true though that when web pages that are displayed
> in php format from the server side can be done more
> simply than from the browser side, but the user or member,
> in our case does not or should not have direct access to
> server based processes or data of this sort FROM that
> or those servers...

That's one of the more incomprehensible sentences I've ever read, and 
I don't really know what you're trying to get at here, but didn't you 
claim in an earlier thread that the "grep" command had some sort of 
magical ability to grab the server-side data of a site?  Are you 
backing down from this now?  Or are you just too clueless about 
technical matters to have the slightest inkling of what you're 
talking about, but you just wish to try to bluff your way through 
anyway?

>   Hence  your argument here technically is circular, and
> therefore not membership applicable...

Your argument here technically is incomprehensible.

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