RE: [ICANN-EU] Increasing representativeness

[R.Gaetano@iaea.org]

Constantine,
> > On 2000-08-17 21:24:20 +0300, Constantine S. Chassapis wrote:
> >
> > >> A network of at least one ICANN At Large representative per
> > >> country should be definitely constituted, be it official or
> > >> unofficial. There should be a virtual regional council through
> > >> which the European At Large Director can get the consensus or
> > >> at least the voices of everyone about important decisions to be
> > >> taken.
> >
> > > I agree and I support that idea. Ideas of this type have already
> > > been proposed by other candidates too. Yes, we must
> > > self-organize! Fast!
> >
> > Well, to put it a bit IETF-like: I believe in open lists and rough
> > consensus.  I don't suppose we need appointed representatives from
> > countries or the like.  I'd expect that with some luck there'll be
> > available a sufficient amount of expertise which is sufficiently
> > distributed over the continent, which just waits to be collected.
> >
> 
> Dear Thomas,
> 
> The way to collect the distributed intelligence of our europe 
> is something
> that concerns me a lot. I believe that the people in this 
> mailing list,
> and possibly some other candidates that have not expressed 
> themselves yet
> are, ..., well, how to present it, ..., are a GOOD START! Lets find an
> intelligence and fair way to self-organize in a level a 
> little bit higher
> than
> a mail-list.
> 
> For example 1, a think-tank may be formed, but a little more 
> organized than
> a simple mail-list, maybe some intelligent technology is 
> needed or some
> intelligent people, where the discussions will be more 
> organized, presented
> threaded, interlinked, maybe a search engine, maybe a 
> specialized site for
> the group.
> Maybe some external people will be invited to express ideas, 
> people from
> academia,
> or industry. The people in this body, I call it "eubody",
> I imagine they will work a little more through their answers or
> their questions, they will have the time to work some 
> material during for
> example the
> week-ends, nobody will press someother for  answer, there will be no
> elections.
> Some intelligent organizational scheme is needed, some bylaws 
> will guarantee
> that we will be self-protected from governmental, industrial 
> or other hidden
> influence, , ... ok, I stop now.


Maybe we can start by asking to the top voted candidates whether they
support the idea of organizing a more permanent regional AtLarge structure.

Also, we may need to organize ourselves to be able to present this issue to
the candidates in September/October. The Germans have been succesful so far
with media: maybe if this question is echoed in the press, it will become
unavoidable for the candidates to answer it and to take committments.



> 
> For example 2, a european group that may even publish a 
> magazine. Then maybe
> a book. Then maybe, with support from enough members, we may 
> even become
> a respectable pressure group. If you have a respectable 
> number of people
> from
> all over europe, not only mass-media will get interested, but 
> also, we will
> have
> rights related to the european uinon.


Good idea.
There is already an European forum related to ICANN, the EC-PoP
(http://www.ec-pop.org/). That is, IMHO, more intended for participation by
industry and commercial interest (even if formally open to everybody).
We need a similar thing for the users and generally speaking the AtLarge.
I am sure that the Commission would not oppose the project. But I also
assume that we want to keep it in terms of bottom-up self-organized forum,
not government-sponsored.


> 
> For example 3, Greece is a good place for summer vacations, 
> maybe we may
> organize an open forum each year in some Island of Greece. 
> Maybe we may
> even invite some rock or jazz groups, and do something of a 
> happening. You
> know, that, among other things, draws publicity.

Very good indeed.
But to keep it in terms of "self-governance", I suggest also to bring your
own instruments, if you play music. I'll come with my saxophone, and be glad
to have a jam-session after the long debates ;>)

Regards
Roberto