Re: [ICANN-EU] RE: PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG. (AND WHY)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all,

  Yes, what is being odn about getting the non-usable PIN's fixed
Andrew?  Several times I have responded to requests for information
to no avail in My Case as well.  Yet the problem remains.  If you can't
do the job or fix the problem restore the original PIN's of those that
have been issued them.  If you don't have all the PIN's issued, get it
done.

Thank you for you cooperation and understanding in advance...

Jefsey Morfin wrote:

> Dear Mr. McLauglin,
> questions are simple:
>
> - without her PIN activated can Jeannette be elected?
> - do you confirm that only activated PINs may vote
> - what about activated PINs which do not work anymore (my case)
>
> May be broadcasting this information would help a few people
> in here to spend a better night!
> Cheers.
> Jefsey
>
> At 22:33 08/09/00, you wrote:
> >Giorgio:
> >
> >A few points:
> >
> >1.  You're wrong about (4).  You don't have to be a member to be a
> >candidate, or a nominees, or a director.  Anyone can be a candidate or
> >nominee, or director.
> >
> >2.  I think Jeanette simply lost her PIN letter, or had it sent to an prior
> >address (correct me if I'm wrong, Jeanette).  Please keep in mind that the
> >application required that a valid physical address be given.  This is for
> >extremely important verification and fraud prevention purposes.  That
> >address had to be valid;  we could not allow online changes in address to be
> >made, because it would open to door to clever fraud efforts (enter one
> >address in the application;  then request the PIN letter be sent to another
> >address).  Also, we do not have the money to send more than one PIN
> >reminder, and we do not have the staff to enter new addresses by hand.
> >
> >If the address given was invalid, no PIN letter will be received.  If the
> >address *becomes* invalid (due to a move), the result is the same.  If the
> >applicant moves to a new address, she/he simply has to get her/his mail
> >forwarded to the new address.  If that works, she/he will have no trouble
> >activating.
> >
> >The procedure may seem burdensome, but it is dictated by (1) lack of
> >resources, and (2) the need for very strong verification and anti-fraud
> >measures.
> >
> >--Andrew
> >
> >
> >[ -----Original Message-----
> >[ From: grunz@box1.tin.it [mailto:grunz@box1.tin.it]On Behalf Of Griffini
> >[ Giorgio
> >[ Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 8:47 PM
> >[ To: Jeanette Hofmann; icann-europe@fitug.de; icann-europe@fitug.de;
> >[ mclaughlin@pobox.com
> >[ Subject: PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG. (AND WHY)
> >[
> >[
> >[ Sorry for the emphasis on the subject but the Jeanette Hofmann msg about
> >[ her activation problems made my brain rolling and I double
> >[ verified on bylaw a
> >[ thing that I will explain. (please Jeanette take a seat near to you)
> >[
> >[ 1) Applications for memberships are closed now so no new
> >[ members will be accepted.
> >[ 2) To be a member the application for membership _must_ be verified.
> >[ 3) To verify the application the PIN _must_ be used.
> >[ 4) The director _must_ be a member.
> >[
> >[ This open an interesting scenario where even a Nom-Com candidate may be
> >[ not eligible because (s)he is not an @large 'member'.
> >[ Jeanette is slighthly in a better position respect , for example
> >[ to a Nom-Com
> >[ candidate who did not apply for membership. The Nom-Com candidate
> >[ cannot at all became a member while Jeanette applied and it is
> >[ not her fault
> >[ if PIN arrived late.
> >[
> >[ This fact will have 'sort of' devastating effects on these
> >[ elections....so please
> >[ try to convince me I'm wrong...
> >[
> >[ Any opinions?
> >[
> >[ Best regards
> >[ Giorgio Griffini
> >[
> >[
> >[

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