Re: [ICANN-EU] RE: PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG. (AND WHY)

[Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>]

Dear Mr. McLauglin,
questions are simple:

- without her PIN activated can Jeannette be elected?
- do you confirm that only activated PINs may vote
- what about activated PINs which do not work anymore (my case)

May be broadcasting this information would help a few people
in here to spend a better night!
Cheers.
Jefsey



At 22:33 08/09/00, you wrote:
>Giorgio:
>
>A few points:
>
>1.  You're wrong about (4).  You don't have to be a member to be a
>candidate, or a nominees, or a director.  Anyone can be a candidate or
>nominee, or director.
>
>2.  I think Jeanette simply lost her PIN letter, or had it sent to an prior
>address (correct me if I'm wrong, Jeanette).  Please keep in mind that the
>application required that a valid physical address be given.  This is for
>extremely important verification and fraud prevention purposes.  That
>address had to be valid;  we could not allow online changes in address to be
>made, because it would open to door to clever fraud efforts (enter one
>address in the application;  then request the PIN letter be sent to another
>address).  Also, we do not have the money to send more than one PIN
>reminder, and we do not have the staff to enter new addresses by hand.
>
>If the address given was invalid, no PIN letter will be received.  If the
>address *becomes* invalid (due to a move), the result is the same.  If the
>applicant moves to a new address, she/he simply has to get her/his mail
>forwarded to the new address.  If that works, she/he will have no trouble
>activating.
>
>The procedure may seem burdensome, but it is dictated by (1) lack of
>resources, and (2) the need for very strong verification and anti-fraud
>measures.
>
>--Andrew
>
>
>[ -----Original Message-----
>[ From: grunz@box1.tin.it [mailto:grunz@box1.tin.it]On Behalf Of Griffini
>[ Giorgio
>[ Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 8:47 PM
>[ To: Jeanette Hofmann; icann-europe@fitug.de; icann-europe@fitug.de;
>[ mclaughlin@pobox.com
>[ Subject: PLEASE TELL ME I'M WRONG. (AND WHY)
>[
>[
>[ Sorry for the emphasis on the subject but the Jeanette Hofmann msg about
>[ her activation problems made my brain rolling and I double
>[ verified on bylaw a
>[ thing that I will explain. (please Jeanette take a seat near to you)
>[
>[ 1) Applications for memberships are closed now so no new
>[ members will be accepted.
>[ 2) To be a member the application for membership _must_ be verified.
>[ 3) To verify the application the PIN _must_ be used.
>[ 4) The director _must_ be a member.
>[
>[ This open an interesting scenario where even a Nom-Com candidate may be
>[ not eligible because (s)he is not an @large 'member'.
>[ Jeanette is slighthly in a better position respect , for example
>[ to a Nom-Com
>[ candidate who did not apply for membership. The Nom-Com candidate
>[ cannot at all became a member while Jeanette applied and it is
>[ not her fault
>[ if PIN arrived late.
>[
>[ This fact will have 'sort of' devastating effects on these
>[ elections....so please
>[ try to convince me I'm wrong...
>[
>[ Any opinions?
>[
>[ Best regards
>[ Giorgio Griffini
>[
>[
>[