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Re: [ICANN-EU] IPv6, was: re-chartering this list: draft.
- To: Andy Mueller-Maguhn <andy@ccc.de>
- Subject: Re: [ICANN-EU] IPv6, was: re-chartering this list: draft.
- From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
- Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:47:30 -0700
- CC: Christoph <520066262227-0001@t-online.de>, icann-europe@fitug.de
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- Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
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Andy and all,
Andy Mueller-Maguhn wrote:
> Christoph wrote:
>
> > 'cybermobbing' is
> >badly overstated here. Quite gross, actually.
>
> Form follows function; but the function of communication
> is to enable exchange of views. I wish we could agree, that
> any debate we have here must make sense itself and not
> be a tool for "I am better than you am cause I know more"
> games.
Well knowledge is power after all...
>
>
> >The problems we face now with the DNS
> >system are nearly 100% externally caused (mostly by a mix of bad
> >court decisions and legal theories and bad administrative practice),
> >and we can create new TLDs until we are blue in the face, these
> >problems won't go away.
>
> Objection. I agree about the reasons for the current problems,
> but not, that new TLDīs couldnīt solve any problems. I could
> imagine that new TLDīs take place under there own rules,
> policies and legal theories. So, next to the (not so new) idea
> of a TLD ".TM" for the trademark-owners, i could imagine
> ".GPL" for everything under gnu public-license. We could even
> expand these to cultural and religious spaces, like ".ISLAM"
> (btw, they have no copyright & patent-laws ;), ".catholic"
> for everything under Catholic policy and so on.
Or even .Jesus and .GOD.. Woops! .GOD is taken, sorry...
>
>
> Planet earth is big and I donīt see any reason for putting
> american policies and/or centralised ICANN decisions on the
> whole cultural and economic space internet.
I agree. Certainly not exclusively US or centralized
ICANN decisions anyway...
>
>
> So, for it might be quiete difficult, to break up the rules
> on the current TLD`s, it might be a good way to create some
> new ones under those policies and so show up alternatives.
Good point. And one that has been made time and time again
over the past ohhh, 4 or 5 years now. ICANN has rejected it of
course....
>
>
> >Another example is Jeanette's ideas abou how standardization
> >works. Lutz very early made the point that the authority of
> >organizations like ICANN derive from the technical quality
> >of their results. Bad standards are not accepted in the market.
> >Again Jeanette disagreed, somehow, with some fluff remarks
> >on the influence of techs, without that I really
> >understood her counterposition.
>
> I thought you did agree, that the current TLD / namespace
> handling courtdecisions vs. UDRP/WIPO stuff is bullshit,
> but it is accepted in the market. So I have to disagree:
> just because a standard is bad, it doesnīt mean it is not
> accepted in the market.
>
True. But if any standard is recognizes widely as bad for very long,
it no longer remains a standard...
>
> best regards,
>
> Andy M.-M.
>
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>
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