Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: FC: ICANN attorney replies to Politech post on "self-regulation's end"

["Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>]

Thank you Joop, for setting me straight.

    I am sorry that you have tried "diplomacy, been there and done that"
without success. I just doubt that the currently touted alternative will
succeed in it's place. I hope that am I proven wrong.

    I have subsequently learned that Richard has multiple communications
skills and that the attack version which triggered my response was a
targeted smart bomb with a calculated payload.  I did not have the strategic
knowledge to accurately assess the acceptable levels of collateral damage.
And, coward that I am, I did not want my name on each of the innocent
victim's headstones.

    Simply put, I am about as dedicated to the cause as any average user
would ever be, and I would prefer such overt attacks to be clearly explained
so that us "average Joes" understand the reason why we must accept such
carnage. Perhaps that way we can avoid becoming collaterals and stay with
the program. As for the benefits of covert operations, well... everyone has
the right to speak as an individual :)

Ron Sherwood

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
To: "Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>
Cc: "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>; <declan@well.com>;
<politech@politechbot.com>; "atlarge discuss list"
<atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: FC: ICANN attorney replies to Politech
post on "self-regulation's end"


> At 08:06 a.m. 15/06/2002 -0400, Ron Sherwood wrote:
>
> >     It is my humble opinion that our organization is in very real need
of a
> >spokesperson representative who can carry our dialog to others in the
manner
> >in which all successful international diplomacy is conducted.
>
> Agreed. Although some may say it is too late for that now.
>
> >We do need
> >leaders who have the technical knowledge, the vision and the mindset that
> >defines our organization as being representative of the global user.
But,
> >we also need leaders who are managers (to bring our organization to
> >functionality), marketing experts (to grow the membership to be truly
> >representative of users on a global scale), and diplomatic communicators
(to
> >present our case to ICANN, to government representatives, to other
> >organizations and to the media. To allow our voice to be heard with
> >respect).
>
> That too.
>
> Ron, in defence of Richard, who has been elected for the interim website
> supervisory Panel of icannatlarge.com, let me stress that while we need
> cool-headed and cool-spoken leaders, he cannot help to represent several
> thousands of highly disillusioned and offended individuals, even if you
> don't want to count yourself among them.
>
> Mr Sims has not been very diplomatic to us either. (Black helicopter
crowd,
> global democracy-nuts, etc.)
> How can we all have a reasoned exchange at that level?
>
> All most of us 'nuts' wanted was to help create public accountability and
> small stakeholder input for an ICANN that we were willing to support and
> sacrifice time for.
>
>
> --Joop
> (diplomacy, been there, done that)
>
>
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